Forecast Discussions mentioning ACARS, received at FSL on 08/23/99


EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
AFDSAN 320 AM PDT MON AUG 23 1999

...SYNOPSIS... A WEAK UPPER TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE OFF THE CALIFORNIA COAST AND BROAD HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE INTERIOR WEST WILL BRING WEAK SOUTHERLY FLOW ALOFT AND WEAK ONSHORE LOW LEVEL FLOW TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THROUGH MID WEEK. A MINOR SURGE OF MONSOONAL MOISTURE WILL BRING A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS TO THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS TODAY.

...DISCUSSION... SYNOPTIC PATTERN IMPACTING SRN CA WL CHANGE LITTLE DURG THE NEXT FEW DAYS WITH A WK UPPER TROUGH OFF THE CA CST WITH BROAD HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE INTERIOR WEST. THIS WL RESULT IN WK SLY FLOW ALF OVR SRN CA WITH WK ONSHR FLOW. HOWEVER...SUBSYNOPTIC DETAILS SHOULD RESULT IN PERCEPTIBLE DAY TO DAY DIFFERENCES.

FIRST ITEM OF CONCERN IS THE INFLUX OF MOSTLY MID LVL MONSOONAL MSTR INTO SRN CA TODAY. 03Z ETA IS WELL-INITIALIZED AND PREFERRED. MSTR ASSOCD WITH ONGOING THUNDERSTORMS OVR FAR SW AZ WL REMAIN ALG AND E OF THE MTNS TODAY. MTSR ASSOCD WITH THUNDERSTORMS OVR NW MEXICO SUN EVENING WL BE DRAWN NORTHWARD INTO SRN CA TODAY ALG AND W OF THE MTNS. ETA BRINGS A SWATH OF 70+ PERCENT RH AT 500 MB NORTHWARD ACROSS SRN CA ALG AND W OF THE MTNS TODAY. WL CHANGE WORDING FOR CSTL SXNS TODAY TO PARTLY CLOUDY AFTER MORNING LOW CLOUDS TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS BRIEF INFLUX OF MID LVL MSTR. FOR MTNS AND DESERTS...WL INCR POPS TO LOW END OF CHANCE CATEGORY TODAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INFLUX OF MSTR...KPG HIGHEST POPS IN THE MTNS. BOTH RUC AND ETA GENERATE QPF TODAY ALF THE MTNS FROM THE SBD MTNS S. ETA ACTUALLY GENERATES QPF FOR SAN COUNTY MTNS AS EARLY AS THE LATE MORNING... HENCE WL REMOVE TIME QUALIFIERS FOR THUNDERSTORMS TODAY FOR THE SAN COUNTY MTNS. WL LEAVE THUNDERSTORM WORDING FOR TUE UNCHANGED FOR NOW.

MARINE LYR...SUN EVENING ACARS SOUNDINGS/RAOBS SHOWED A MARINE LYR DEPTH OF AROUND 700 FT LAX...TO 1500 FT NKX. WITH LTL CHANGE IN HEIGHTS ALF OVR SRN CA THE NEXT FEW DAYS...EXPECT ONLY MINOR DAY TO DAY CHANGES IN THE MARINE LYR DEPTH THRU MID WEEK. MDLS ARE ABSENT SYNOPTIC SUPPORT FOR A CSTL EDDY THRU TUE. HIGHER RESOLUTION MDLS SHOW ONLY WK ONSHR FLOW AND NO CSTL EDDY. EXPECT CONTINUATION OF LATE NIGHT/EARLY MORNING LOW CLOUDS AND FOG WITH PATCHY DENSE FOG INLAND ORANGE COUNTY CSTL PLAIN...SAN COUNTY CSTL MESAS...AND LWR CSTL VLYS OF SAN COUNTY.

TEMPERATURES...WITH MDTLY HIGH HEIGHTS ALF AND VRY WK ONSHR FLOW... HIGH TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE SEASONABLY HOT FM THE VLYS INLAND WITH COOLER HIGH TEMPERATURES CONFINED TO AREAS CLOSE TO THE CST.

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.SAN...NONE.

MARTIN


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SEATTLE WA
AFDSEW 250 AM PDT MON AUG 23 1999

06Z SURFACE ANALYSIS HAS THERMALLY INDUCED LOW RIGHT ALONG THE COAST. THIS AGREES WITH FOG/STRATUS SATELLITE IMAGERY WHICH SHOWS STRATUS DECK STILL AT LEAST 20 MILES OFFSHORE EXCEPT ALONG THE EXTREME NORTH COAST. MODELS CONSISTENT IN MOVING THERMALLY INDUCED LOW INLAND TODAY. CURRENT ACARS SOUNDINGS HAVE 850 MB TEMPS OVER KSEA +19C RIGHT NOW WHICH VERIFIES WELL 09Z AVN 850 MB TEMP FIELD. LITTLE FLOW ALOFT TO MIX THIS WARM AIR ALL THE WAY TO THE SURFACE BUT KSMP IS 13 DEGREES WARMER THAN LAST NIGHT. JOHNSON STUDY USING LAST NIGHTS DATA AND ESTIMATING MORNING TEMPS FOR NEVILLE STUDY BOTH GIVE MAX NEAR 85 FOR SEATTLE TODAY. THERMALLY INDUCED LOW SHIFTS EAST OF THE CASCADES TONIGHT BUT SURFACE HIGH OFF THE COAST NOT VERY STRONG AND ONLY A LITTLE COOLING ALOFT TUESDAY MORNING COMBINING TO KEEP MARINE LAYER SHALLOW OVER THE INTERIOR. ONSHORE PRESSURE GRADIENTS SLOWLY INCREASE AS THE DAY GOES ON PROVIDING 5 TO 10 DEGREES OF COOLING FOR THE MAX TEMPS ON TUE. .EXTENDED...STRONG FLOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN PACIFIC WITH 110 KT JET JUST EAST OF THE DATELINE AT 50N ON THE MODELS ACTUALLY UNDERDONE WITH MULTIPLE AIREPS INDICATING 120-140 KT WINDS AT 300 MB. WITH SUCH STRONG FLOW IN AUGUST AND OLD WESTERN PACIFIC TYPHOON MOISTURE SOON TO BE EMBEDDED IN THE FLOW DONT HAVE MUCH CONFIDENCE IN THE EXTENDED MODELS RIGHT NOW. HAVING SAID THAT...BOTH MRF AND EURO KEEP A MAJORITY OF THE ENERGY FROM THE SYSTEM DUE TO REACH THE BC COAST WED WELL TO THE NORTH OF WASHINGTON AND 500 MB HEIGHTS ALTHOUGH DROPPING ...REMAIN ABOVE 574DM. ON THU THE 4 CORNERS HIGH REBUILDS NORTH AND BY FRI A STRONG UPPER LEVEL RIDGE IS OVER THE AREA. MRF MUCH STRONGER WITH THERMALLY INDUCED SURFACE LOW ON FRI ALONG THE COAST WHILE EURO KEEPS LOW FURTHER SOUTH AND HAS FLAT GRADIENTS ACROSS WESTERN WA. BOTH MODELS HAVE HIGH HEIGHTS OVER THE AREA. WILL SHOW IMPROVING TREND ON THU WITH FRI BEING SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY ( SUNDAY ). FELTON

UIL 011 SEA 000 OLM 000

.KATX...VCP32/CSR32...OPERATIONAL.

.SEW...NONE.