Forecast Discussions mentioning ACARS, received at FSL on 09/08/99


SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
AFDLOX 200 PM PDT TUE SEP 7 1999

LATEST SATELLITE/SURFACE OBS INDICATE SUNNY SKIES ACROSS THE AREA EXCEPT FOR SOME PATCHY STRATUS/FOG NEAR THE BEACHES. AREA OF SUBSIDENCE...ASSOCIATED WITH UPPER TROUGH OFFSHORE...HAS HELPED CLEAR THE STRATUS/FOG OVER THE OCEAN. POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT THE ATMOSPHERE MIGHT BE MIXED UP ENOUGH TO LIMIT MARINE LAYER FORMATION TONIGHT. HOWEVER...WITH DECENT ONSHORE FLOW AND GOOD INVERSION PRESENT...BELIEVE STRATUS/FOG WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP OVERNIGHT. LATEST ACARS DATA...FROM LA BASIN...INDICATES SUBSIDENCE HAS HELPED SQUASH MARINE INVERSION WITH BASES AROUND 1000-1500 FEET. WITH THE BASE OF THE INVERSION THAT LOW...STRATUS/FOG MAY HAVE SOME TROUBLE REACHING THE VALLEYS TONIGHT...SO WILL ONLY MENTION PATCHY MARINE LAYER FOR VALLEY ZONES. OTHER THAN MARINE LAYER CLOUDS...SKIES SHOULD BE CLEAR OVERNIGHT ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

FOR WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH OVERALL SYNOPTIC PATTERN. UPPER LOW...CURRENTLY SOUTHWEST OF THE AREA...WILL GRADULLY LIFT NORTHEASTWARD INTO CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. AS THE UPPER LOW LIFTS...H5 HEIGHTS WILL GRADUALLY INCREASE AND ONSHORE FLOW WILL WEAKEN SLIGHTLY. THEREFORE...WILL EXPECT SLIGHT SHRINKING OF MARINE LAYER THROUGH THURSDAY...WITH STRATUS/FOG CONFINED TO THE COAST. OTHER THAN MARINE LAYER...HAVE SOME SLIGHT CONCERN ABOUT SOUTHERLY FLOW ALOFT BRINGING IN SOME MOISTURE FROM HURRICANE GREG. AT THIS POINT...DO NOT THINK WILL GET ANYTHING MORE THAN SOME MID/HIGH CLOUDS FROM GREG...WHICH WILL BE COVERED BY MOSTLY SUNNY/MOSTLY CLEAR WORDING.

AS FOR TEMPS...THICKNESSES SHOW ONLY MINOR FLUCUATIONS THROUGH THURSDAY. THEREFORE...MOUNTAIN/DESERT TEMPS SHOULD CHANGE LITTLE WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. HOWEVER...COASTAL AND VALLEY TEMPS SHOULD WARM A COUPLE OF DEGREES WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...AS MARINE LAYER INFLUENCE DIMINISHES.

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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GREEN BAY WI
AFDGRB 200 PM CDT TUE SEP 7 1999

SFC COLD FRONT NEAR INL TO ATY AT 18Z. IT IS PRODUCING CLOUDS AHEAD OF IT BUT NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF PCPN. FURTHER AHEAD OF THE FRONT IS A BROKEN LINE OF RW AND TRW IN NW WI AND E MN. THIS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A SFC OR UPR FEATURE...BUT WITH STRONG LOW LVL JET. THIS JET WAS ESCAPING THE PROFILER NETWORK AT 18Z...AS BLUE RIVER WISCONSIN AND WHITE LAKE MINNESOTA BOTH REPORTED SW WINDS AT 15 KNOTS AND SLATER IOWA HAD 25 KTS. ACARS AIRCRAFT SOUNDING (ACWEB.FSL.NOAA.GOV FOR NOAA OFFICES) FROM MSP AT 1753Z SHOWED 50 KT WINDS AT 850MB. MODELS HAVE ABT 40 KNOT WINDS AT 850MB. ETA/NGM/AVN HAVE TROUBLE WITH THIS CONVECTION OUT AHEAD OF FRONT, BUT LAST NIGHT'S MESO ETA RUN DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. IT/S 850MB CONVERGENCE ACCURATELY DEPICTED WHERE THE TRW STARTED EARLY THIS MORNING. IT LIFTS THIS AREA TO THE NORTHEAST THIS EVENING AND WEAKENS IT. 12Z MODELS ALSO SHOW 850MB JET LIFTING INTO CANADA. SO EXPECT TRW NOW IN NW WI TO MOVE EAST AND FIZZLE OUT AS LOW LVL JET LIFTS TO THE NORTHEAST. WILL KEEP LIKELY POPS IN NW ZONES BUT KEEP CHC POPS FURTHER S AND EAST AS WE/LL HAVE TO RELY ON SFC FRONT TO PRODUCE PCPN THERE. WITH STG PRESSURE RISES OVER PLAINS THIS AFTERNOON THE FRONT SHOULD BEGIN ACCELERATING THIS EVENING. AS FRONT MOVES THROUGH AND 500MB LOW HEADS TWDS GREAT LAKES 500MB TEMPS COOL TO NEAR -20C THURSDAY. THINK THERE MIGHT BE INSTABILITY RW SO WILL KEEP THAT IN FORECAST.

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