Forecast Discussions mentioning ACARS, received at FSL on 09/17/99


SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
AFDLOX 200 PM PDT THU SEP 16 1999

CLOUDS MORE STUBBORN TO BURN OFF TODAY THANKS MAINLY TO A STRONGER ONSHORE FLOW. ACARS AND BASIN PROFILERS CONTINUE TO INDICATE MARINE LYR DEPTH IS VIRTUALLY UNCHANGED SINCE YESTERDAY. HOWEVER...WITH STRONGER ONSHORE GRADIENTS...CLOUDS ARE HANGING IN A LITTLE STRONGER AND SHOULD BE MOVING INLAND EARLIER TONIGHT THAN LAST NIGHT. SOME CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED OVER THE ERN MTNS BUT SO FAR PRECIP SEEMS TO BE CONFINED TO THE 29 PALMS AREA. THUS WILL KEEP FORECAST DRY FOR OUR MTNS AND DSRTS.

VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN THE PATTERN THRU THE WEEKEND. PERSISTENT W CST TROF WILL WEAKEN SLIGHTLY TONIGHT AS A VERY WEAK TRANSITORY RIDGE MOVES THRU. HOWEVER THIS WILL QUICKLY BE REPLACED BY ANOTHER TROF WHICH WILL MAINTAIN BELOW NORMAL TEMPS AND A STUBBORN MARINE LYR. THO THERE WILL BE MINOR DAY TO DAY FLUCUTATIONS IN THE TEMPS DUE TO MARINE LYR DEPTH AND MINOR GRADIENT CHANGES...JUST INDICATED NO CHANGE IN TEMPS NEXT TWO DAYS.

BELOW NORMAL TEMPS WILL LIKELY CONTINUE AT LEAST THROUGH THE MIDDLE PART OF NEXT WEEK. BEYOND THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY SINCE THE RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY OF THE MRF HAS BEEN VERY POOR LATELY. PREVIOUS RUN INDICATED A DEEP H5 LOW OVER SO CAL FOR NEXT WEEKEND. LATEST RUN INDICATES A STRONG RIDGE OVER SO CAL WITH A MODERATE OFFSHORE FLOW. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT TONIGHT'S SOLUTION SHOWS.

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SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
AFDLOX 910 AM PDT THU SEP 16 1999

UPR LOW CENTERED OVER ERN NV INITIALIZED PRETTY WELL BY THE ETA THIS MORNING. THE TAIL END OF THE TROF ASSOCD WITH THE LOW PASSED THROUGH SO CAL AROUND 15Z THIS MORNING AND RESULTED IN SOME DRIZZLE/LIGHT RAIN OVER THE COASTAL AREAS. CLOSER TO THE LOW CENTER ITSELF NEAR THE AZ/NV/CA BORDER...AN AREA OF THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPED AS THE TROF INTERACTED WITH SOME MID LVL MSTR. DO NOT EXPECT ANY OF THESE THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP IN OUR AREA AS LOW WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EAST TODAY TAKING WITH IT ANY MECHANISM FOR SIGNIFICANT CONVECTION. THE MODELS DO MAINTAIN A CYCLONIC CIRCULATION AT 850 AND 700 MB JUST OFFSHORE...WHICH WILL MAINTAIN A SOUTHERLY FLOW OF AIR OVER THE INLAND AREAS. HOWEVER...THIS SHOULD DO NOTHING MORE THAN ALLOW SOME AFTERNOON CLOUDS TO DEVELOP OVER THE MTNS AND DSRTS.

OTHERWISE...PROFILERS AND ACARS DATA ACTUALLY INDICATE VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN THE DEPTH OF THE MARINE LYR...ROUGHLY 2500 FEET. PRESSURE GRADIENTS ARE SLIGHTLY STRONGER ONSHORE TODAY SO IF ANYTHING...EXPECT AN EVEN SLOWER CLEARING PATTERN THIS AFTERNOON. BEACH AREAS ALONG THE VENTURA AND SBA COUNTY COAST WILL LIKELY SEE VERY LITTLE...IF ANY SUN...WHILE LA COUNTY BEACHES SHOULD CLEAR OUT BY MID AFTERNOON. MARINE LYR WAS SURPRISINGLY VERY LATE TO RETURN LAST NIGHT IN LA COUNTY...BUT WITH GRADIENTS TRENDING ONSHORE...EXPECT CLOUDS TO COME IN EARLIER TONIGHT.

VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN THE OVERALL PATTERN THRU SAT. WEAK CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT WILL CONTINUE AS THE TROF ALONG THE W CST REMAINS IN PLACE. THUS...VERY BLAH WEATHER WILL CONTINUE ALONG MOST OF THE CST WITH WELL BELOW NORMAL TEMPS JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE S OF PT CONCEPTION. N OF THE POINT...TEMPS WILL BE NEAR SEASONAL NORMS...BUT OVERALL WEATHER WILL BE SIMILAR WITH MORNING CLOUDS CLEARING TO NEAR THE BEACHES BY AFTERNOON.

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