Forecast Discussions mentioning ACARS, received at FSL on 01/17/01


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORMAN OK
AFDOKC 258 PM CST TUE JAN 16 2001

RUNNING BEHIND DUE TO NUMEROUS COORD CALLS THIS AFTERNOON. LEAD SHORT WAVE TROF CONTINUES TO SHEAR OUT AND WEAKEN AS IT MOVES NEWD ACROSS THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE TRAILING EDGE OF DEEPER MOISTURE AND PRECIP FROM BUFFALO TO JUST WEST OF OKC TO ARDMORE. PRECIP HAS BEEN A MIXED BAG SO FAR WITH VERY LITTLE ACCUMS. BEST SNOW HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN NC OK WHERE HEAVY SNOW BANDS HAVE REDUCED VIS TO UNDER A MILE BRIEFLY IN PLACES. MODELS DID QUITE A BIT BETTER THIS TIME WITH THE LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELD AS VERIFIED BY AN AIRCRAFT TEMP PROFILE FROM WILL ROGERS ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO. MODELS ALSO DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF BRINGING THE MOISTURE IN INITIALLY AT THE CORRECT LAYER ABOVE THE FREEZING LEVEL THIS TIME. LOOKING BACK AT THE MASS FIELDS FROM YDAYS 12 RUNS..EVOLUTION TODAY HAS NOT BEEN TOO FAR OFF FROM WHAT ONE WUD EXPECT..THE LACK OF BROAD DEEP MOISTURE AND A TIGHTER THERMAL GRADIENT HAS THUS FAR RESULTED IN PRETTY MUCH A NON-EVENT.

BAND 10 AND 12 WV IMAGERY STILL IS SHOWING A BROAD DRY SLOT SLOWLY PUSHING ACROSS THE FA BEHIND VORT LOBE..AND CURRENT THINKING IS THAT THE MAIN PRECIP WITH THIS FEATURE WILL SHUT OFF THIS EVENING IN NC OK AS DEEPER MOISTURE IS SHUNTED NWD. HOWEVER..BROAD WEAK WAA WILL CONTINUE..AND THIS WILL LEAD TO DRIZZLE/FLURRIES AND FOG OVER MOST OF THE AREA THRU THE NITE. TEMPS EXPECTED TO REMAIN BLO FREEZING ACROSS THE NRN THIRD OVERNITE..THUS MAY SEE SLICK ROADS DEVELOP EVEN THO THE SIGNIFICANT PRECIP WILL BE OVR. WE WILL CONT THE WINTER WX ADV IN THESE AREAS..BUT THE WARNING FOR THE NW WILL BE DOWNGRADED. SOME HILITES MAY NEED TO BE EXTENDED FOR PARTS OF THE WEST AND/OR SOUTH FOR WED. BUT EVOLUTION IS UNCERTIAN ATTM AND WILL LET MID CREW DECIDE THAT COURSE OF ACTION.

NEXT VORT LOBE WILL SWING NEWD LATE TONITE/WED MORNING AND MAY SEE PRECIP REDEVELOP OVER THE SRN ZONES AFTER MIDNITE. BEST LIFT APPEARS TO BE FOCUSSED JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE FA AT THE NOSE OF THE 850 LLJ HOWEVER.

LATEST MODELS HAVE FLIP FLOPPED YET AGAIN AND NOW ARE FARTHER SOUTH WITH THE SYSTEM FOR THURS AFTERNOON THRU FRI MORNING IN THE SOUTH..LIKELY IN RESPONSE TO MORE ENERGY DIVING SWD IN THE NRN STREAM. WILL KEEP CHANCE POPS GOING AND WORD CHANGING TO SNOW BEFORE ENDING ON FRIDAY MORNING. NRN STREAM SYSTEM WILL BRING A CHANCE FOR LITE SNOW TO MOST OF THE AREA FRI/FRI NITE. CLIMATOLOGICALLY THESE NW FLOW SYSTEMS ARE PRONE TO DUMPING A FEW INCHES SOMEWHERE /SIMILAR TO NEW YRS EVE SYSTEM/..BUT HARD TO TELL WHERE ATTM. COLD TEMPS THRU THE WEEKEND WITH A WARMING TREND MON/TUE.

THANKS FOR COORD WITH TUL/ICT/DDC/AMA MILLER

PRELIM NUMBERS..SUBJECT TO CHANGE.. OKC 30 33 28 34 / 80 80 40 30 HBR 31 33 27 35 / 80 80 30 30 SPS 35 37 30 35 / 80 80 30 40 GAG 22 29 22 35 / 80 80 10 10 PNC 28 32 27 35 / 80 80 30 10 DUA 37 39 35 36 / 80 80 50 50

.OUN... OK...WINTER WX ADV WEST CENT/NW/NORTH CENT OK TONITE OKZ004>020. TX...NONE.




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SEATTLE WA
AFDSEW 840 AM PST TUE JAN 16 2001

.OVERVIEW... THE PICTURE IS MUCH THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS AS A STRONG JET DOMINATES THE MID LATITUDES OF THE CENTRAL AND WRN PAC...AN AREA OF INTENSE CYCLOGENESIS CONTINUES BETWEEN ABOUT THE DATELINE AND 160W AT 45N...THEN SPLITTING/DYING SYSTEMS ENCOUNTER A PERSISTENT RIDGE OVER THE PAC NW. PER SATELLITE IMAGERY AND ACARS DATA THE MODELS APPEAR WELL INITIALIZED ACROSS THE ERN PAC. WHILE THE MODELS APPEAR SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS RUNS...THE 12Z MESOETA AND AVN IN PARTICULAR ARE FASTER IN BRINGING THE REMNANTS OF THE SLUG OF MOISTURE NOW CROSSING 140W INTO WRN WA WED AFTN/EVENING. THIS IS NOT UNREASONABLE GIVEN WHAT IS SEEN ON IR/WATER VAPOR LOOPS.

.SHORT TERM...THE MAIN PROBLEM THROUGH MIDDAY WED WILL BE FOG AS LIGHT GRADIENTS AND STRONG LOW LEVEL INVERSIONS PERSIST. ALTHOUGH THE FOG TOPS ARE ONLY 1200-1500 FEET...INSOLATION IS STILL RATHER WEAK THIS TIME OF YEAR. SO EXPECT FOG TO BE SLOW TO LIFT/BREAK...AND WILL HAVE DIFFICULTY BREAKING IN TRADITIONALLY STAGNANT AREAS S OF KSEA IN THE INTERIOR. LIGHT GRADIENTS...STRONG LOW LEVEL INVERSIONS...AND RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL REPEAT THE FOG PROCESS TONIGHT THROUGH MIDDAY WED. MESOETA FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW WARM ADVECTION FROM 5000-8000 FEET REACHING THE COAST MIDDAY AND THE INTR LATE AFTN. THIS WILL KEEP THINGS CLOUDY WED AFTN AND PROVIDE SOME VERY LGT PCPN TO THE COAST AND A FEW SPRINKLES IN THE INTR BY EVENING. WILL MAKE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS.

.EXTENDED...WITH THE RIDGE AXIS PROGRESSING EWD INTO ERN WA...EXPECT AN ALMOST ENDLESS STREAM OF STRETCHING SYSTEMS TO AFFECT WRN WA FRI THRU MON WITH A CHANCE OF PCPN AND SEASONAL TEMPS IN GENERALLY OFFSHORE FLOW. THU MAY BE THE NICE DAY OF THE BUNCH AS OFFSHORE GRADIENTS INCREASE AHEAD OF FRI MRNGS STRETCHING SYS. CURRENT FORECASTS THU AND BEYOND LOOK GOOD.

UIL 005 SEA 001 OLM 001 ALBRECHT

.KATX...VCP31/CSR32...OPERATIONAL

.SEW...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ON THE COAST FOR HEAVY SWELL.