Forecast Discussions mentioning ACARS, received at FSL on 02/11/01


NORTHERN ARIZONA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS FLAGSTAFF AZ
AFDFLG 300 PM MST SAT FEB 10 2001

SYNOPSIS...A WEAK PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM WILL MOVE ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA TONIGHT BRINGING A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION...MAINLY TO THE UTAH BORDER REGION. FAIR WEATHER IS EXPECTED TO RETURN ON SUNDAY AND CONTINUE INTO MONDAY. ANOTHER...STRONGER STORM WILL AFFECT THE STATE BEGINNING TUESDAY AND WILL BRING MOUNTAIN SNOW AND VALLEY RAIN TO NORTHERN ARIZONA FOR MUCH OF THE WEEK.

DISCUSSION...CLOSED LOW HAS BEGUN TO MOVE ONSHORE OVER NRN CA THIS MORNING. THIS SYSTEM IS BEGINNING TO OPEN UP AND WEAKEN AS A STRONGER SYSTEM AMPLIFIES OVER THE PAC NW. EVEN THOUGH THERE IS SOME WEAKENING...THERE IS STILL A MODERATE BAROCLINIC ZONE LOCATED AHEAD OF IT OVER SRN CA/SRN NV AND UT. EXPECT THIS BAROCLINIC ZONE TO SLOWLY SAG SWD OVERNIGHT AND LINGER OVER THE NORTHERN ZONES THRU TOMORROW BEFORE WEAKENING. THIS BAROCLINIC ZONE WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO PRODUCE SOME RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE NORTHERN ZONES AND POPS REFLECT THIS. FARTHER SOUTH POPS NIL OR CLOSE TO IT. JET ASSOCIATED WITH NEXT SYSTEM APPEARS TO BE UNDERDONE WHEN COMPARING INITIAL ANALYSES WITH ACARS WINDS. SUSPECT THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL MOVE SLOWER THAN MODELS SUGGEST AND WILL HAVE NO IMPACT UNTIL THE EXTENDED PERIODS.

EXTENDED...SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND MRF. MRF DEVELOPS A MODERATE AMPLITUDE, LARGE WAVELENGTH TROUGH OVER MUCH OF THE CONUS. ECMWF DEVELOPS MORE ZONAL FLOW WITH HIGHER HEIGHTS. BOTH SOLUTIONS WILL RESULT IN TROUGHING OVER THE WEST BUT WITH LARGE DIFFERENCES IN TEMPS AND TRAJECTORIES. ENOUGH DISPERSION IN MRF ENSEMBLE MEMBERS TO CAST SOME DOUBT. ALSO...RECENT H5 OBS-FCST BIASES BETWEEN VARIOUS MODELS AS WELL AS MODEL CORRELATIONS SUGGEST THAT THE ECMWF HAS THE BETTER TRACK RECORD IN RECENT DAYS. GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY...WILL LEAN MORE TOWARD THE ECMWF SOLUTION BUT TEND TO BROADBRUSH THE EXTENDED UNTIL SOME CONSENSUS EMERGES. DB

.FGZ...NONE




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SEATTLE WA
AFDSEW 830 PM PST SAT FEB 10 2001

.OVERVIEW... GLOBAL MODELS AND COMPOSITE IMAGERY SHOW A HIGH AMPLITUDE RIDGE ALONG 145W WITH A MEAN TROUGH NEAR 115W. NEARBY...A 524 DAM 500 MB LOW NEAR BUOY 46005...AND ASSOCIATED 999 MB LOWS NEAR BUOY 46005 AND KAST...ARE DRIVING SWD IN RESPONSE TO THE UPSTREAM RIDGING AND INTERACTION WITH THE REMNANTS OF THE CIRCULATION OF THE OLD UPPER LOW THAT PASSED WRN WA THU. AN OCCLUSION ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW OFF NW OREGON IS NEARLY STATIONARY AND APPEARS TO BE MAKING A TRANSITION TO A DEFORMATION ZONE. OTHER THAN BEING A LITTLE WEAK AND TOO FAR E WITH THE JET ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE OFFSHORE DIGGING LOW...THE 00Z MODELS APPEAR RATHER WELL INITIALIZED AND ARE CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS SOLUTIONS IN SHOWING DRYING WITH TIME.

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

LATE SUN-TUE LOOK DRY AND SEASONALLY COOL WITH NNE FLOW ALOFT.

.EXTENDED... 00Z AVN SIMILAR TO 12Z RUN AND LAST NIGHTS MRF IN INDICATING NEXT SHORT WAVE TROUGH NOW ASSOCIATED WITH A 968 MB LOW IN THE BERING SEA DIGGING FARTHER W THAN ECMWF OR PREVIOUS DAYS MRF RUNS. GIVEN THE WAVELENGTH ACROSS THE PACIFIC...A SCENARIO SIMILAR TO LAST THURSDAY NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION FOR WED OF NEXT WEEK AS COOL/DRY CONDITIONS PREVAIL IN INTR WRN WA AND SHORT WAVE ENERGY TRIES TO DIG SWD ALONG THE W COAST. WILL AWAIT THE COMPLET SUITE OF 00Z AVN/MRF SOLUTIONS BEFORE MAKING CHANGES TO THE CURRENT DRY EXTENDED FORECAST.

UIL 9410 SEA 3100 OLM 6200 ALBRECHT

.SEW...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY COAST FOR ROUGH BAR CONDITIONS. .SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR THE ENTRANCES TO THE STRAIT.

.KATX...VCP31/CSR31...OPERATIONAL.