AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NEW YORK NY
AFDOKX 300 AM EDT MON APR 16 2001
WINTER RETURNS...A DEEP SHORTWAVE TROF WILL BE OVER THE REGION TUE
THRU THU WITH WEAK RIDGING FOR FRIDAY. THIS FEATURE HAS BEEN
FORECASTED TO OCCUR FOR A WEEK AND WHILE IT WILL NOT BE A DEEP AS
ORIGINALLY FCSTED...IT'S STILL A 2 SIGMA ANOMALY AND 1000-500 MB
THICKNESS OF 520 DM ARE IMPRESSIVE TO MID TO LATE APRIL.
SHORT TERM...PCPN OVER REGION IS LIGHT WITH GOOD BRIGHT BANDING SEEN
ON RADAR. PIREP FROM GON-TTN AT 05Z REPORTED SNOW AT 040. WET BULB
ZERO IS AT AROUND 3K AND ACARS SOUNDINGS SHOWING FREEZING LEVEL
AROUND 4K. 999 MB LOW LOCATED EAST OF NORFOLK AS OF 06Z.
SUNY MM5 DISCUSSION...
ETA AND MM5 12KM BOTH SLOW ON GETTING TO THE 06Z SFC LOW POSITION.
ETA DOES A BETTER JOB IN CATCHING UP THAN THE MM5 DOES. THE MM5
DEVELOPS A DOUBLE LOW STRUCTURE WHICH TAKES UNTIL LATE THIS
AFTERNOON TO GET ABSORBED INTO A SINGLE LOW CENTER. THE 36 KM HAS
HINT OF THIS TOO WHICH MAKES ME THINK IT IS NOT AN ARTIFACT OF THE
HIGHER RESOLUTION BUT SOME MODEL ARTIFACT? INTERESTINGLY...THE PSU
25 KM MM5 00Z RUN DOES NOT SHOW THIS DOUBLE LOW STRUCTURE.
AVN...ETA AND MM5 ALL HAVE A 996 CENTER AT 18Z 300+ MILES SE OF
MONTAUK.
PCPN OVER WESTERN PORTION WILL END VERY EARLY THIS AM WITH NOTHING
MEASURABLE AFTER 12Z (I HOPE) AS SUPPORT ERODES AND LOW DISCUSSED
ABOVE BECOME PRIMARY FEATURE. EXPECT BREAKS OF SUN THIS AFTERNOON IF
NOT BETTER.
SHORTWAVE DROPS IN FROM THE GREAT LAKES LATE TONIGHT. MM5 AND ETA
ROTATE A BAND OF PCPN ACROSS THE REGION TUE MORNING WITH THE HEAVIER
PCPN TO THE NORTH OF THE CITY AND LI. ETA AND 12KM MM5 PRODUCES SOME
CONVECTIVE PCPN WHICH IS WHAT I'D EXPECT WITH THE INSTABILITY. WILL
NOT TRY TO TIME THIS EVENT YET FOR TUESDAY FOR INSTABILITY COULD BE
HIGHER IN THE PM AS SUN COMES OUT.
DISCUSSED QPF WITH ALY AND FEELING HERE IS THAT QPF HERE LESS THAN
1/4 INCH. MODELS FOCUS QPF IN THEIR AREA ACCORDINGLY. MM5 4KM RUN
SHOW SOME MESOSCALE STRUCTURE TO THE PCPN OVERNIGHT.
PCPN TYPE...HAVE TO USE THE ETA SOUNDINGS AS ANY THICKNESS
TECHNIQUES PRODUCE A LOT OF SNOW. THINKING IS THAT ETA SOUNDINGS
ARE TYPICALLY TOO WARM. WILL INCLUDE POSSIBLY MIXED FOR THE HIGHT
ELEVATIONS INLAND.
SHOWERY WX CONTINUES ON WED.
NEXT PCPN EVENT APPEARS TO BE LATE FRIDAY AS A WARM FRONT.
MARINE...SEAS GET TO SCA ON TUE. OTHERWISE NO PROBLEMS.
EQUIPMENT...RADAR HAVING SOME CALIBRATION PROBLEMS. WILL HAVE
TECHNICIANS INVESTIGATE IN THE AM. DO NOT TRUST ANY OKX PCPN
ESTIMATES.
HYDRO: CT RIVER IN FLOOD...REFER TO BOSFLSBOS FOR MORE INFO.
.OKX...
CT...FLW FOR CT RVR CTZ007 (VIA WFO BOX).
NJ...NONE
NY...NONE
MARINE...NONE.
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TONGUE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SEATTLE WA
AFDSEW 215 AM PDT MON APR 15 2001
.OVERVIEW...
A HIGH AMPLITUDE PATTERN CONTINUES ACROSS THE PACIFIC AND NORTH
AMERICA WITH RIDGING ALONG 170W...A DEEP TROUGH ALONG 140W...AND AN
OMEGA BLOCK ALONG 110W. MODEL PERFORMANCE ON THE LARGE SCALE HAS BEEN
QUITE GOOD...BUT AS SUSPECTED FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS SMALL DIFFERENCES
IN THE POSITION OF THE FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE OFFSHORE TROUGH IS
CAUSING SHORT TERM FORECAST HEADACHES IN WESTERN WASHINGTON. THE 00Z
MODELS --AVN/MESOETA/MM5-- APPEAR REASONABLE WELL INITIALIZED
OFFSHORE. BUT ACARS DATA SEEM TO INDICATE SOME PLACEMENT PROBLEMS
WITH INDIVIDUAL JET STREAKS ROTATING AROUND THE OFFSHORE VERTICALLY
STACKED LOW NEAR 41N/140W. SPECIFICALLY THE FIRST JET STREAK TO THE
SE OF THE LOW THAT IS NOW PULLING NNE APPEARS TO BE INITIALIZED TOO
STRONG. THE NEXT JET STREAK AND SHORT WAVE ROTATING AROUND THE SW
PART OF THE LOW APPEARS TO BE WELL PLACED PER WATER VAPOR
IMAGERY...AND IT IS THIS SHORT WAVE THAT BRINGS THE PRECIPITATION
SHIELD WITH THE OFFSHORE FRONT INLAND THIS EVENING. WILL USE A
COMBINATION OF SATELLITE IMAGERY...AND MESOSCALE MODELS IN THE FIRST
PERIOD...THEN TREND TOWARD THE AVN IN FOR THE SECOND PERIOD THROUGH
WEDNESDAY. SUSPECT THAT NO MODEL WILL NAIL DOWN THE TIMING OR
STRENGTH OF INDIVIDUAL FEATURES MOVING THROUGH A NEARBY LONG WAVE
TROUGH IN THE EXTENDED...SO WILL CONTINUE TO USE A BROAD BRUSH THERE.
.SHORT TERM...
LIGHT PRECIPITATION WILL FLIRT WITH THE COAST AND OLYMPICS
TODAY...BUT WILL STAY OUT OF THE INTERIOR UNTIL LATE AFTERNOON AT
BEST GIVEN OFFSHORE PRESSURE GRADIENTS AND SLY FLOW ALOFT. ALL SHORT
TERM GUIDANCE KEEPS PCPN W OF A KCLM-KSHN-KSPB LINE UNTIL RIGHT AFTER
00Z WHEN A SURGE OF SLY GRADIENTS MOVES NWD WITH THE PASSING SHORT
WAVE. GIVEN THIS SCENARIO...NOT UNCOMMON FOR THE SPRING...WILL LOWER
POPS TODAY AND RAISE TEMPERATURES INTO THE LOWER TO MID 60S IN THE
INTERIOR. THEN HIGH POPS AND COOLING TAKES PLACE TONIGHT AND TUE AS
THE FRONTAL BAND MOVES SLOWLY EWD. DESPITE WARM TEMPERATURES THIS
AFTN...INSTABILITY IN ALL MODELS NOW INSUFFICIENT TO PROVIDE A
CONVECTIVE THREAT.
.EXTENDED...CURRENT EXTENDED FORECASTS LOOK GOOD PER ABOVE
DISCUSSION.
UIL 8++ SEA 388 OLM 499 ALBRECHT
.SEW...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY COAST AND WEST ENTRANCE TO THE STRAIT OF
JUAN DE FUCA.
.KATX...VCP31/CSR31...OPERATIONAL