Forecast Discussions mentioning ACARS, received at FSL on 04/29/01


SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
AFDLOX 900 PM PDT SAT APR 28 2001

MARINE LAYER STUBBORN OVER LAX/VTU COUNTIES THIS EVENING. AS OF 03Z VBG/NKX SOUNDINGS...AND ACARS SOUNDINGS INDICATE THE MARINE LAYER WAS NEAR 1200 FEET OVER SBA COUNTY AND 2000 TO 2500 FEET OVER LAX COUNTY. AN EDDY SHOULD LINGER OVER THE INNER WATERS TONIGHT TO HELP KEEP THE MARINE LAYER RELATIVELY DEEP WITH SOME DRIZZLE POSSIBLE MANY AREAS...ALL THE WAY UP TO THE LOWER COASTAL SLOPES. WITH A NORTHERLY FLOW OVER SBP/SBA COUNTIES...SKIES SHOULD AVERAGE OUT PARTLY CLOUDY TONIGHT. SOME NORTHERLY CANYON WINDS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE S SBA COAST AS WELL...ESPECIALLY LATER TONIGHT.

VERY WEAK UPPER TROF TO MOVE OVER SOCAL LATER TONIGHT AND EARLY SUNDAY. ONLY AFFECT WITH THIS FEATURE ARE A FEW HIGH CLOUDS...AND AN INCREASE IN NORTH TO SOUTH GRADIENTS ACROSS THE DISTRICT. THE EASTERN END OF AN UPPER HIGH WILL THEN BUILD INTO THE REGION SUN AFTERNOON THRU MON. THE MESO-ETA SUGGESTS THE MARINE LAYER TO SOME EXTENT WILL LINGER AT LEAST OVER LAX COUNTY COAST THRU MON. STRONG NW FLOW OVER THE OUTER WATERS SHOULD KEEP THE EDDY GOING OVER THE INNER WATERS THROUGH THE PERIOD AS WELL. MESO-ETA 950 MB TEMPS DO INCREASE NICELY SUN TO MON...WITH DRYING AT THAT LEVEL...SUGGESTING A SHRINKING MARINE LAYER. WE SHOULD SEE A BIT BETTER CLEARING OF THE LOW CLOUDS OVER VTU/LAX COUNTIES SUN...WITH MOST AREAS SEEING SUNSHING SUN AFTENROON. LOW CLOUDS SHOULD STAY OUT OF LAX/VTU COUNTY VALLEYS SUN NITE...BUT AT LEAST PATCHY LOW CLOUDS AND FOG STILL POSSIBLE FOR COASTAL AREAS. SLO/SBA COUNTIES SHOULD REMAIN MOSTLY CLEAR WITH JUST SOME PATCHY LOW CLOUDS AND FOG. ON MONDAY...ALL INLAND AREAS SHOULD WARM UP...WITH 80S TO POSSIBLY AROUND 90 IN THE VALLEYS...AND 70S IN THE MOUNTAINS. SOME SLIGHT OFFSHORE FLOW SHOULD ALLOW TEMPS TO WARM INTO THE 70S OVER COASTAL AREAS OF SLO/SBA COUNTIES AS WELL...WITH TEMPS REMAINING RELATIVELY COOL NEAR THE BEACHES ELSEWHERE.

CURRENT FORECAST...INCLUDING TEMPS...LOOKS GOOD OVERALL...BUT WILL DO A ZONE UPDATE BY 945 PM FOR MINOR CHANGES IN FIRST PERIOD.

IN THE EXTENDED...UPPER RIDGE GIVES THE DISTRICT ANOTHER WARM DAY TUE...THEN AN UPPER LOW DEVELOPS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN LAS VEGAS AND THE FOUR CORNERS WED AND THU. THE UPPER LOW WILL PROVIDE THE DISTRICT WITH BREEZY TO WINDY CONDITIONS AT TIMES...MAINLY NORTHERN ZONES AND IN MOUNTAINS WED AND THU...ALONG WITH COOLER TEMPERATURES.

LAX 0000. SIRARD.

.LAX...GALE WARNING/SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXCWFLAX).




EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
AFDSAN 205 PM PDT SAT APR 28 2001

...SYNOPSIS... ONSHORE FLOW AND A DEEP MARINE LAYER WILL CONTINUE LOW CLOUDS TONIGHT WITH SOME PATCHY DRIZZLE LATE. BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT AND WEAKER ONSHORE FLOW WILL BRING WARMING AND LESS OF A MARINE LAYER SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY. COOLING IS EXPECTED INLAND BY MID-WEEK AS LOW PRESSURE ALOFT DIVES SOUTH INTO THE DESERTS.

...DISCUSSION... THE MARINE INVERSION IS AT AROUND 3000 FEET...THOUGH AFTER ACARS SOUNDINGS SHOW THE STRENGTH DOWN TO ABOUT 5-6 DEG C DUE TO SOME COOLING JUST BELOW 850 MB. THE EDDY RESULTED IN NORTHERN AREAS HAVING TROUBLE CLEARING...MORE SPECIFICALLY ORANGE COUNTY...THE ONTARIO AREA AND THE N COAST OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY. SOME DRIZZLE OCCURRED THIS MORNING...AND WITH THE WEAK TROUGH MOVING THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING...PROBABLY AROUND 18Z...SOME DRIZZLE COULD AGAIN OCCUR THEN...ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COASTAL SLOPES.

HOWEVER...ONCE THE TROUGH MOVES THROUGH...OFFSHORE TRENDS WILL OCCUR...BOTH AT THE SURFACE AND ESPECIALLY ALOFT. SO...THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO BRING BETTER CLEARING TO MOST AREAS SUNDAY AFTERNOON. THIS APPEARS TO BE ENOUGH TO CLEAR EVEN COASTAL AREAS MONDAY...THOUGH 12Z AVN HINTS AT A WEAK EDDY...SO AT LEAST THE USUAL NIGHT/MORNING COASTAL LOW CLOUDS AND FOG SHOULD CONTINUE THEN. INLAND AREAS SHOULD GET QUITE WARM TOO DUE TO A LOT OF WARMING ALOFT. SINCE THE OFFSHORE FLOW WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE COAST...SEASONABLE TEMPS SHOULD OCCUR THERE.

THE LONGER RANGE MODELS VARY QUITE A BIT WITH THE SOLUTION OF THE INSIDE SLIDER AND/OR CLOSED LOW FOR THE WED-FRI PERIOD. 12Z AVN IS TRENDING A BIT MORE WITH A CLOSED LOW FROM THE MRF...THOUGH THE CONFIDENCE IS QUITE LOW...ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT ONE MRF ENSEMBLE SOLUTION HAS A WEAK RIDGE THU. FOR NOW...I WILL GO WITH AN ECM/AVN BLEND WITH THE CLOSED LOW A BIT FURTHER EAST...BUT STILL WITH COOLING. THE LOW MAY BE CLOSE ENOUGH FOR SOME CLOUDS OVER THE MTNS/N DESERTS...SO I WENT WITH PARTLY CLOUDY WORDING FOR THOSE AREAS...THOUGH THE AVN SOLUTION WOULD HINT AT A VERY SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS. SOME BREEZY CONDITIONS COULD OCCUR BELOW PASSES AND CANYONS TOO SINCE WE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT UPPER-LEVEL WIND DIRECTION AND COLD AIR ADVECTION. ALSO...THOSE WHO ARE WEST OF THE MTNS WOULD EXPERIENCE FEWER LOW CLOUDS WITH THIS REGIME.

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