Forecast Discussions mentioning ACARS, received at FSL on 05/09/01


EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
AFDSAN 315 AM PDT WED MAY 9 2001

...SYNOPSIS... A WEAK UPPER TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. IN RESPONSE...A SLOW COOLING TREND WILL DEVELOP INLAND FROM THE COAST TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY WITH SLOWLY INCREASING NIGHT AND MORNING COASTAL LOW CLOUDS AND FOG. ...DISCUSSION... A GRADUAL SLOW COOLING TREND WL BEGIN TO SPREAD INLAND FM THE CST TODAY THRU SAT AS A WK TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS OVR THE ERN PAC...POSSIBLY MOVG INLAND NEXT WEEK. TUE EVENING ACARS SOUNDINGS SHOWED A SHALLOW MARINE INVERSION (INVERSION BASE 700 TO 900 FT ALG THE CST) CAPPED BY A VERY STRONG INVERSION. MINOR COOLING WL SPREAD A LTL FARTHER INLAND TODAY WITH SOME CLOUDS ONCE AGAIN LINGERING NR THE BEACHES. WK CSTL EDDY AND SLOW DEEPENING OF THE MARINE LYR WL SPREAD LOW CLOUDS A LTL FARTHER INLAND TONIGHT WITH COOLING SPREADING INLAND TO ALL AREAS W OF MTNS THU WITH SOME ADDITIONAL COOLING FRI AND SAT. WL SHOW COOLING IN LINE WITH MRF MOS.

LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS WK CSTL EDDY WITH NARROW SLIVER OF STRATUS SPREADING NORTHWARD ALG THE SRN CA CST. STRENGTH AND SHALLOWNESS OF THE MARINE INVERSION WILL LIMIT INLAND PENETRATION OF CSTL STRATUS ONCE AGAIN THIS MORNING. HOWEVER...DENSE FOG IS POSSIBLE THIS MORNING NR THE MESAS...HIGHER CSTL TRRN...AND LWR CSTL VLYS IN SAN COUNTY AND NR HIGHER CSTL TRRN IN ORANGE COUNTY. NOWCASTS WL BE ISSUED...AS NECESSARY...TO HIGHLIGHT AREAS OF LWR VISIBILITY DURG THE MORNING COMMUTE. TRENDS OF 06Z ETA APPEAR REASONABLE IN SHOWING GREATER STRATUS COVERAGE...SOME MARINE LYR DEEPENING...AND GREATER INLAND PENETRATION OF CSTL STRATUS TONIGHT INTO THU MORNING.

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.SAN...NONE.

MARTIN




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO IL
AFDCHI 310 AM CDT WED MAY 9 2001

FORECAST CONCERNS INCLUDE LINGERING PRECIP OVER SOUTHERN COUNTIES OF FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...THEN PRECIP CHANCES AND TIMING LATE TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY AS NEXT FRONTAL SYSTEM APPROACHES.

CURRENT RADAR SHOWS SCATTERED SHOWERS/TSTORMS GENERALLY SOUTH OF I-80 AND EAST OF I-55. THIS IN ASSOCIATION WITH WEAK SHORT WAVE SEEN IN GOES WATER VAPOR LOOP MOVING INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS. RUC AND ETA HANDLE THIS BEST...AND CONTINUE TO WEAKEN THIS FEATURE THIS MORNING. TROF AXIS THEN SHIFTS EAST OF THE AREA WITH WEAK RIDGING ALOFT THIS AFTERNOON. SHOULD BE ANOTHER DAY WITH GOOD MIXING GIVEN STEEP LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES...AND GUIDANCE HIGHS AROUND 80 LOOK GOOD WHEN COMPARED TO ACARS SOUNDINGS AND MODEL 850 MB TEMPS. BREEZY AGAIN TODAY ESPECIALLY NORTHWEST WHERE GRADIENT STRONGER...BUT NOT AS WINDY AS TUESDAY.

ATTENTION THEN SHIFTS TO SERIES OF SHORT WAVES ADVANCING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS IN FLAT WESTERLY UPPER FLOW PATTERN. INITIAL WAVE IN EASTERN MONTANA THIS MORNING DEVELOPS SURFACE LOW OVER NORTHERN MINNESOTA BY THIS EVENING...WITH COLD FRONT EXTENDING INTO THE WESTERN HIGH PLAINS. GOOD MOISTURE ADVECTION INTO IOWA...MINNESOTA AND WESTERN WISCONSIN AHEAD OF THIS FEATURE...AND SHOULD RESULT IN THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THAT AREA LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT. WITH FAST WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT...EASTERN PORTION OF BOUNDARY SHOULD MOVE MORE QUICKLY INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES...SLOWING SOUTHEASTWARD PROGRESSION TOWARD ILLINOIS. CURRENT FORECAST HAS LOW CHANCE OF PRECIP INTO ROCKFORD AREA TOWARD MORNING...AND THIS STILL LOOKS OK.

LATER PERIODS BECOME LESS CLEAR AS DIFFERENCES IN FRONTAL POSITION AND RESOLUTION OF SHORT WAVES BECOME EVIDENT IN THE MODEL FORECASTS. WITH LOW LEVEL BOUNDARY BECOMING MORE PARALLEL TO UPPER FLOW...FAVOR SLOWER ETA MOVEMENT OF SURFACE FRONT. THIS WOULD KEEP BEST CHANCES OF PRECIP OVER NORTHERN/NORTHWEST SECTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA THURSDAY...WITH BEST SURFACE MOISTURE CONVERGENCE AND INSTABILITY. BETTER CHANCES FOR ENTIRE FORECAST AREA THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY...AS SURFACE FRONT SAGS INTO ILLINOIS. POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAINS ESPECIALLY NORTHWEST SECTIONS THURSDAY NIGHT.

WITH SLOWER ETA PROGRESSION OF FRONT FAVORED THURSDAY...EXPECT MAX TEMPS PERHAPS A CATEGORY ABOVE MOS NUMBERS ESPECIALLY SOUTHERN SECTIONS. WINDS TURN N/NE BEHIND THE FRONT FRIDAY...WITH COOLER TEMPS ESPECIALLY VICINITY OF LAKE MICHIGAN.

.CHI...NONE.

RATZER