Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", or "AIRCRAFT" received at FSL on 02/14/02


SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
AFDLOX 855 PM PST WED FEB 13 2002

RATHER MESSY AND ILL-DEFINED WEATHER PATTERN SETTING UP ACROSS THE AREA FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS. HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE BAND MOVED ACROSS THE DISTRICT ON WEDNESDAY...AND EVEN HAD SOME SCATTERED SPRINKLES ACROSS VENTURA AND LOS ANGELES COUNTIES LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THIS DID NOT MEASURE AT ANY OF THE METAR OR ALERT GAUGES...WITH SEVERAL SPOTTERS REPORTING TRACE AMOUNTS. 00Z NKX/VBG SOUNDINGS AND RECENT ACARS SOUNDING FROM SNA INDICATE SUBSTANTIAL DRY LAYER STILL PRESENT FROM ABOUT 950 MB UP TO 700 MB. MARINE LAYER IS SPREADING INTO THE CENTRAL COAST AT THIS TIME...WITH LOW CIGS ALREADY REPORTED ACROSS WRN SBA COUNTY. SOME LOW CLOUDS ALSO FORMING ALONG THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY COAST...BUT STILL CLEAR ALONG THE LA/VTU COASTS. WEAK EDDY APPEARS TO BE PRESENT ACROSS THE INNER WATERS...AND 00Z MESO-ETA STRENGTHENS THIS OVERNIGHT. LOW CLOUDS SHOULD DEVELOP LATE TONIGHT ACROSS THE L.A. COUNTY COAST...AND MAY SPREAD INTO THE VALLEYS AND FURTHER NW INTO THE VTU/SBA S COASTS ON THU MORNING. ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST...DO NOT SEE SUFFICIENT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE OR LIFT FOR SHOWERS TONIGHT OR THU... AND WILL REMOVE 20 PERCENT POPS FROM THE FCST. RADAR IS SHOWING A FEW LIGHT RETURNS OFFSHORE...SO WILL KEEP MENTION OF A FEW SPRINKLES FOR TONIGHT AND THU AM. WILL ALSO CLEAN UP SOME EVENING WORDING FURTHER SOUTH...AND MAKE SOME CLOUD ADJUSTMENTS FOR TNGT/THURS AS WELL.

00Z ETA IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE PREVIOUS AVN RUN THRU FRI MORNING...WITH WEAK UPPER LOW SITTING OFF THE CENTRAL COAST. MODELS THEN DIVERGE...WITH ETA WEAKENING THE LOW MORE QUICKLY WHILE PUTTING MORE ENERGY INTO THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE. ETA ACTUALLY CUTS THIS OFF INTO AN UPPER LOW NEAR 37N 133W BY SAT MORNING...WHILE THE PREVIOUS AVN KEPT THIS FEATURE AS A MORE PROGRESSIVE WAVE. MARINE LAYER DEEPENS CONSIDERABLY THU NIGHT AND FRI...LIKELY REACHING THE COASTAL SLOPES. FRIDAY WILL BE A RATHER MURKY AND COOL DAY...WITH THE COMBINATION OF THE MARINE LAYER AND MID LEVEL MOISTURE FROM THE UPPER LOW KEEPING SKIES MOSTLY CLOUDY. SOME FOG AND PATCHY DRIZZLE SEEMS LIKELY AS WELL.

WEEKEND FORECAST DEPENDS ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND MOVEMENT OF THE TWO WEATHER SYSTEMS...THE FIRST UPPER LOW...AND THE SECOND S/W (POSSIBLY BECOMING AN UPPER LOW AS WELL) TO THE WEST. MODELS TYPICALLY HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME HANDLING THESE TYPES OF PATTERNS...AND CONFIDENCE IN ANY DETAILS IN VERY LOW. CURRENT FCST HAS SATURDAY CONTINUING IN THE MURKY/DRIZZLE PATTERN...THEN A CHANCE OF RAIN ON SUNDAY AS THE MAIN SYSTEM IS SUPPOSED TO MOVE THROUGH. IF THE SYSTEM CUTS OFF AS THE LATEST ETA IS SUGGESTING...SATURDAY WOULD BE A NICER DAY AS WEAK S/W RIDGING DEVELOPS AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW...AND THE CHANCE OF RAIN WOULD PROBABLY END UP DELAYED UNTIL MONDAY DUE TO THE SLOWER MOVEMENT OF THE CLOSED LOW. WILL LET THE MID SHIFT REVIEW THE FULL 00Z MODEL SUITE AND DECIDE WHETHER TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FORECAST.

LAX 0000. JACOBSON

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