SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
AFDLOX 300 AM PDT FRI MAY 3 2002
MARINE INVERSION HAS STRENGTHENED DURG THE PAST 24 HRS...AND ACARS
SOUNDINGS SHOWED THE BASE OF THE INVERSION AROUND 1500 FT. LOW CLDS
HAVE BECOME MUCH MORE ORGANIZED OFF THE CST...AND HAVE ALREADY BECOME
WDSPRD ACRS CSTL SNXS OF SLO/WRN SBA COUNTIES. S OF PT CONCEPTION...
STRATUS HAS BEGUN TO PUSH INTO CSTL SXNS OF L.A. CNTY...WITH SOME
EXPANSION OF THE LOW CLOUD DECK OFF THE CST. WITH MDT ONSHR GRADS...
XPCT AT LEAST AREAS OF LOW CLDS TO SPRD INTO CSTL ZONES OF L.A. AND
POSSIBLY VTU COUNTIES BY DAYBREAK. MARINE INVERSION WAS HOVERING NEAR
THAT CRITICAL HEIGHT WHICH DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT CLDS WL SPRD INTO
THE VLYS. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT THE VLYS WL REMAIN MOSTLY CLEAR...
BUT WITH THE MDT ONSHR GRADS...WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF SOME LOW
CLDS PUSHED INTO THE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE VLY LOCATIONS...SUCH AS THE SAN
GABRIEL VLY AND THE CSTL VLYS OF VTU CNTY...FOR A COUPLE OF HRS AFTER
DAYBREAK. INVERSION SHOULD STILL BE WEAK ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR RATHER
GOOD CLRG OF THE LOW CLDS IN CSTL SXNS TODAY...WITH MOST CSTL ZONES
LIKELY TO BE MOSTLY SUNNY BY AFTERNOON. TEMPS AT 850MB AND IN THE
BOUNDARY LYR ARE FCST TO BE 2 TO 4 DEG C HIGHER THAN ON THU...SO XPCT
A FEW DEGS OF ADDTIONAL WARMING TODAY AWAY FROM THE CST...ESPECIALLY
IN THE MTS AND DSRTS.
THERE WILL BE RATHER LITTLE CHANGE TO THE OVERALL UPR LEVEL PATTERN
THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH A WEAK AND BROAD POSIVELY TILTED TROUGH
EXTENDING ACRS THE AREA...AND WEAK S/WVS OCCASIONALLY RIPPLING THROUGH
IN THE WNWLY FLOW ALF. WITH THICKNESSES AND 850 MB TEMPS PROGGED TO
GRADUALLY RISE THRU SUN...XCPT CONTD GRADUAL WARMING IN THE MTNS AND
DSRTS ON SAT AND SUNDAY...THEN LTL CHANGE ON MONDAY.
THE WEATHER IN CSTL AND VLYS ZONES WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE DAY TO DAY
FLUCTUATIONS IN THE DEPTH OF THE MARINE LAYER AND STRENGTH OF THE ONSHR
FLOW. RISING HEIGHTS WOULD SUGGEST SOME THINNING OF THE MARINE LAYER...
BUT FREQUENT WEAK VORTS MOVING ACRS THE AREA IN WKLY CYCLONIC FLOW ALF
WL PROBABLY OFFSET THIS...KEEPING MARINE LAYER DEPTH RATHER SIMILAR
THRU MON. 06Z ETA INDICATES A WK EDDY CRCLN TONIGHT...THEN A SOMEWHAT
STRONGER CRCLN FOR SAT NIGHT. XPCT LOW CLDS TO BE RATHER WDSPRD ACRS
CSTL SXNS FOR THE NEXT FEW NIGHTS...POSSIBLY SPRDG INTO THE MORE
SUSCEPTIBLE VLY LOCATIONS. THE MARINE INVERSION MAY STRENGTHEN ENOUGH
THIS WEEKEND TO KEEP CLDS HANGING TOUGH NEAR THE CST...ESPECIALLY ON
SUNDAY...WHEN THE EDDY COULD LINGER INTO THE EARLY AFTERNOON. W OF
THE MTNS...TEMPS SHOULD EDGE UPWARD A COUPLE OF DEGS BOTH TODAY AND
SAT...ESPECIALLY IN THE VLYS...AS THICKNESSES AND 950 MB TEMPS RISE
GRADUALLY. XPCT LTL CHANGE IN TEMPS FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY.
TROUGH ALG THE W CST IS FCST TO DEEPEN A BIT TUE...AND ESPECIALLY
WED AND THU...WITH HEIGHTS AND THICKNESSES ACRS SRN CA GRADUALLY
LOWERING...AND ONSHR FLOW INCRSG. THIS SHOULD CAUSE AN INCREASE IN
THE INLAND PENETRATION OF THE NIGHT THROUGH MORNING LOW CLOUDS AND
FOG TUE THRU THU...AND SHOULD BRING GENERAL COOLING TO THE FCST AREA.
LAX 000. BRUNO.
.LOX...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXCWFLAX)
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED...
NWS NEW YORK NY
AFDOKX 1010 AM EDT FRI MAY 3 2002
QUICK UPDATE TO ZONES...RDF...MAINLY TO CLEANUP MORNING MENTION.
WILL CONTINUE WITH CURRENT FORECAST AS WIND FORECAST LOOKS GOOD.
WILL HAVE TO TRANSFER WINDS FROM PRETTY HIGH UP TO GET 50 KT...BUT
40 WITHIN REACH. ACTUALLY ETA BUFKIT PROFILES VERY CLOSE TO OBSERVED
ACARS WINDS AT 12-13Z.
ALSO...WILL GO PARTLY SUNNY NORTH ZONES AS SATELLITE IS SHOWING MORE
SC MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
GALE UP ALL WATERS.
PW
...PREVIOUS DISCUSSION BELOW...
CD FNT JUST S OF LI...WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO NW AND ARE INCRG.
SHRA/TSRA MOVED TO E OF CWA EARLY. WRM FNT NEVER MADE IT THRU OUR
AREA THU.
CIGS AND VSBY IMPROVING. LO DEEPENS RAPIDLY THIS MRNG OVR NEW ENG.
WL GET VERY WINDY ACRS FA. BUFKIT INDICATES WE SHOULD MIX THRU A
RATHER DEEP LAYER. THUS...WL ISSUE WND ADVISORY FOR ALL ZONES.
SHOULD HAVE GUSTS TO 46 MPH...BUT ALSO BELIEVE WE SHOULD EXPERIENCE
SUSTAINED SPEED INTO THE LOW 30S ESPECIALLY IN THE NY METRO AREA
WITH WNW FLO. ETA/FWC/MAV GUIDANCE ALL GIVE SUSTAINED WINDS INTO THE
LOW TO MID 20 KTS. HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE THIS YEAR.
WL STICK TO M/SUNNY FOR TDY. INLAND ZONES WL HAVE MORE CLDS. BULK OF
SHORT WAVE ENERGY WL PASS TO OUR N.
WNDS DIMINISH TNGT AS LO EXITS RGN AND RDG BLDS IN. RDG DOMINATES
THRU WEEKEND. AS RDG SLIDES E...WL HAVE WARMING TREND. M/CLR TNGT
AND SAT NGT AND M/SUNNY SAT AND SUN.
MARINE...KEEP GALE UP.
RUNNING A LITTLE LATE. AIMING FOR 4:30 AM FOR ZFP.
.OKX...
CT..WIND ADVISORY TDY 14Z TO 20Z CTZ005>012.
NJ...WIND ADVISORY TDY 14Z TO 20Z NJZ002>006-011.
NY...WIND ADVISORY TDY 14Z TO 20Z NYZ067>081.
MARINE...GALE WARNING ALL WATERS...ANZ350-353-355-330-335-338.
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BURLINGTON VT
AFDBTV 1128 AM EDT FRI MAY 3 2002
HAVE OPTED TO UPDATE ZFP FOR MOST SOME FIRST PERIOD CHANGES.
STORM SYS TO MOVE ACRS ERN CANADA TODAY. GOOD SFC PRESS GRADIENT TO
BE LOCATED ACRS THE FA TODAY AS WELL. HI PRESS RIDGE TO BUILD ACRS
THE GREAT LKS REGION TODAY AND INTO THE FA FROM THE WEST TONITE. UPR
TROF/TROP FOLD TO MOVE ACRS THE FA TODAY. SECONDARY TROF OF LOW PRESS
TO SWING ACRS THE FA FROM THE NW EARLY TONITE.
09Z RUC SHOWS TEMPS TO GET UP INTO THE U30S-L50S TODAY WITH WESTERLY
SFC WINDS AT 10-15G35KTS. T1MAX TEMPS ARE IN THE M40S-M50S AND LOOK A
LIL BETTER BASED ON CURRENT OBS. FEW TWEAKS TO FIRST PERIOD
TEMPS/WINDS BASED ON THIS DATA. SOME MID-LVL (AND LOW-LVL) MSTR TO
AFFECT THE FA TODAY. PW VALUES LOOK TO BE AROUND 0.3" ACRS THE FA
TODAY. RUC SHOWS SOME SCT LT PCPN TO AFFECT THE FA TODAY (WITH SN
POSSIBLE ACRS THE HIGHEST TRRN). 12Z ACARS SOUNDING OUT OF KBTV
SHOWED THE FREEZING LVL BLO 2500FT. BUFCAN/88D MOSAIC SHOWS SOME SCT
PCPN MOVING DOWN ACRS THE FA ATTM. WILL HANG ONTO CHC/SCT POPS ACRS
THE FA TODAY FOR SHRASN. RUC ALSO SHOWS CAPES TO BE BLO 200 J/KG ACRS
THE FA TODAY...SO WILL LEAVE MENTION OF SMALL HAIL IN FORECAST...
THOUGH DOUBT THAT IT WILL BE WIDESPREAD.
H85 TEMPS TO BE BLO 0 DEG C ACRS THE FA TODAY AND TONITE. WK H85 WAA
TO TAKE PLACE ACRS THE FA TODAY...THEN NEUTRAL ADVECTION TONITE. COOL
POOL AT H85 TO AFFECT THE FA TODAY. MID-LVLS TO DRY OUT TONITE ACRS
THE FA. SOME LOW-LVL MSTR ADVECTION TO AFFECT THE FA TODAY AND
TONITE...WITH SOME LOW-LVL MSTR LINGERING ACRS THE FA TONITE
(ESPECIALLY EARLY). LOW-LVL LAPSE RATES TO BE HI TODAY AND TONITE
ACRS THE FA. MID-LVL LAPSE RATES TO BE HI TODAY ACRS THE FA AS WELL.
H85 WINDS TO BE 30-45 KTS OUT OF THE W-NW TODAY ACRS THE FA...H7
WINDS TO BE 35-55 KTS OUT OF THE W-NW...AND H5 WINDS TO BE 35-50+ KTS
OUT OF THE W-NW (WITH TROP DIGGING DOWN TO AROUND THAT LVL). SLIGHTLY
AGEOSTROPHIC MOTION NOTED AT H85/7 ONLY TODAY. 1000MB GEOSTROPHIC
WINDS TO BE 30-50 KTS ACRS THE FA OUT OF THE NW...WITH BLYR WINDS OF
20-35 KTS OUT OF THE W-NW. 24 SFC PRESS RISES TO BE 10-25 MB ACRS THE
FA...WHICH CLIMO SUGGESTS WOULD ONLY CAUSE A FEW GUSTS AOA 25 M/S. IN
GENERAL...WINDS ALOFT APPEAR TO BE A LIL WEAKER THAN THEY WERE
PROGGED TO BE ATTM YESTERDAY. MESONET OBS SHOW MORNING WIND GUSTS IN
THE 20-40 MPH RANGE...SO WILL JUST MENTION SOME GUSTS TO 40 MPH IN
THIS UPDATE PACKAGE.
REST OF CHANGES TO GOING ZFP COSMETIC. WRK ZONES AND FINAL ZFP
ALREADY ISSUED.
.BTV...NONE.
MURRAY