Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", or "AIRCRAFT" received at FSL on 01/30/03


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO IL
AFDCHI 515 PM CST WED JAN 29 2003

AVIATION DISCUSSION 00Z TAFS NORTHEAST-SOUTHWEST ORIENTED SURFACE RIDGE AXIS FROM NORTHEAST LOWER MICHIGAN TO SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN TO NORTHWEST ILLINOIS TO SOUTHWEST IOWA AT 23Z FORECAST TO CONTINUE MOVING S AND ACROSS THE TERMINALS BY 03Z. LOW LEVEL WINDS FROM PROFILERS....WSR-88DS AND ACARS ALL LIGHT TO CALM AS WOULD BE EXPECTED NEAR RIDGE AXIS...ENDING LAKE EFFECT SNOW. GIVEN LACK OF FLOW FEEL STRATOCUMULUS CLOUDS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND THEN ADVECT BACK NORTH-NORTHEAST THIS EVE ON BACK SIDE OF RIDGE BEFORE MORE SOUTHWESTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW BRINGS IN POCKET OF DRIER AIR CLEARING OUT MVFR CIGS AROUND 06Z. BY THEN PATCHY 5000 TO 8000 FOOT CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH MINOR SHORT WAVE MOVING SOUTHEAST FROM THE DAKOTAS WILL BE OVER AREA. PERIOD OF 3000 TO 4000 FOOT CEILINGS ACROSS AREA 12Z TO 19Z WITH ONSET OF WARM AIR ADVECTION AND POCKET OF HIGHER MOISTURE AIR MOVING EAST-NORTHEAST ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.

TRS

239 PM CST WED JAN 29 2003 PUBLIC DISCUSSION FOR 330PM ZONES/GRIDS

FORECAST CONCERNS FOCUS ON LOW TEMPS/CLOUDS/FLURRIES TONIGHT THEN PRECIP TYPE/TEMPS THURS NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. CLOUDS SLOWLY CLEARING THRU NORTHERN HALF OF CWA THIS PM AND WILL CONTINUE INTO THE EVENING. SOME LAKE EFFECT -SHSN AND FLURRIES STARTED LATE THIS MORNING AND WILL INCLUDE FLURRIES FOR EARLY THIS EVENING MAINLY NORTHWEST INDIANA. GUIDANCE HAS WARMED SEVERAL DEGREES LAST 24 HRS FOR LOWS TONIGHT. WITH FRESH SNOW PACK AND LIGHT WINDS WOULD EXPECT A STEADY DROP. ANY MID LEVEL CLOUDS WILL HELP TO KEEP TEMPS UP BUT STILL THINK GOING UNDER ALL GUIDANCE BEST BET FOR NOW.

DRY THURSDAY BEFORE NEXT SYSTEM SWINGS THRU LATE THURS NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRECIP THURS NIGHT WITH ETA SHOWING MOST WARMING BETWEEN 800 AND 900MB. WILL INCLUDE A CHANCE OF -FZRA AND -SN BUT BY FRIDAY MAY SWITCH OVER TO A MORE WET SNOW MIXED WITH RAIN OR EVEN ALL RAIN SOUTH. PRECIP SHOULD CLEAR EASTERN AREAS BY LATE AFTERNOON.

TEMPS START SLOW WARMING TREND SAT AND SAT NIGHT AS LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS AND MOVES NORTHWEST OF FA. SHOULD SEE SOME LIGHT PRECIP SATURDAY NIGHT AS WARM FRONT MOVES THRU THEN A NICE WARMUP INTO THE 40S...MAYBE 50 SUNDAY BEFORE FROPA LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY MORNING. WRAP AROUND PRECIP CHANGES TO SNOW MONDAY THEN DRY INTO MID WEEK WITH COOLING TEMPS.

.CHI...NONE.

CMS




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN FRANCISCO CA
AFDMTR 935 PM PST WED JAN 29 2003

CLEAR SKIES PREVAIL OVER MOST OF OUR DISTRICT THIS EVENING AS THE AXIS OF THE LARGE-SCALE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE REMAINS PARKED OVER THE WEST COAST. THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT CONCERN AT PRESENT IS WHETHER AREAS OF DENSE FOG WILL AGAIN DEVELOP LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING. LATEST SATELLITE FOG PRODUCT IMAGERY SHOWS SOME FOG DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING IN MARIN COUNTY IN THE VICINITY OF THE PT REYES PENINSULA AND TOMALES BAY. THIS SATELLITE IMAGERY ALSO SHOWS THAT THE AREA OF PERSISTENT FOG IN THE NORTHERN SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY HAS MOVED INTO THE EASTERN PORTION OF CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AND EXTREME NORTHEASTERN ALAMEDA COUNTY. A SPOTTER IN OAKLEY...IN FAR NORTHEASTERN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY...REPORTED A VISIBILITY OF 1/8 MILE AT ABOUT 815 PM. THE PRESENT FORECAST CALLS FOR AREAS OF FOG OVERNIGHT IN THE NORTH AND CENTRAL SFO BAY AREA...AND INCLUDES MENTION OF THE FOG BECOMING LOCALLY DENSE AFTER MIDNIGHT. THIS APPEARS TO BE ON-TRACK AND NO UPDATES ARE CURRENTLY PLANNED...BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR IN CASE A DENSE FOG ADVISORY IS NEEDED LATER TONIGHT.

THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY...LITTLE CHANGE IN OUR WEATHER CONDITIONS IS EXPECTED. THEN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY...A MODERATELY STRONG UPPER-LEVEL DISTURBANCE IS PROJECTED TO MOVE RAPIDLY THROUGH OUR DISTRICT. THIS SYSTEM...PRESENTLY CENTERED ABOUT 1200 MILES NNW OF HAWAII...WAS FLOWN EARLIER TODAY BY THE WINTER STORM RECON PROGRAM AND THUS SAMPLED WITH TARGETED DROPSONDES FROM THE NOAA G-IV AIRCRAFT. IN ADDITION...A US AIR FORCE C-130 PROVIDED DROPSONDE AND FLIGHT LEVEL DATA ACROSS A BROAD REGION OFFSHORE FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THESE DATA WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE 00Z NCEP MODEL RUNS...AND THUS THE INITIAL MODEL STATE OVER THE TYPICALLY DATA SPARSE CENTRAL AND EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN SHOULD BE MUCH BETTER DEFINED THAN USUAL. THAT SAID...THE JUST-RECEIVED 00Z GFS MODEL OUTPUT SHOWS A SOLUTION FOR THE FRIDAY NIGHT/SATURDAY SYSTEM THAT IS GENERALLY QUITE SIMILAR TO THAT FROM THE EARLIER 18Z RUN...THOUGH JUST A BIT SLOWER AND A TAD STRONGER. WITH THE LATEST MODEL RUNS THE GFS HAS NOW FINALLY COME INTO GOOD AGREEMENT WITH WHAT HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY PROJECTED BY ALL THE ECMWF AND UKMET MODEL RUNS OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS. DESPITE THE RATHER ROBUST UPPER-LEVEL DYNAMICS...BOTH THE GFS AND...ESPECIALLY...THE ETA MODEL OUTPUT QPF ARE QUITE LIMITED AND SUGGEST LITTLE IF ANY PRECIP SOUTH OF SFO...WITH EVEN THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF OUR DISTRICT GETTING ONLY QUITE LIGHT AMOUNTS. THIS DISPARITY BETWEEN PROJECTED UPPER LEVEL DYNAMICS AND QPF APPEARS TO BE A CONSEQUENCE OF THE COMBINATION OF ONLY VERY MINIMAL ASSOCIATED SURFACE DEVELOPMENT AND A QUITE LIMITED AVAILABLE MOISTURE SUPPLY.

BY MIDDAY SATURDAY CLEARING SKIES CAN BE EXPECTED...ALONG WITH BREEZY CONDITIONS AS MODERATE NORTHWESTERLY FLOW DEVELOPS AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT. THEREAFTER...RENEWED LARGE SCALE RIDGING RETURNS US TO A DRY AND BENIGN WEATHER PATTERN AS WE HEAD INTO THE FIRST PART OF THE COMING WEEK.

ALL POPS ZERO. BLIER

SFO...TNGT...SCA...POINT SUR TO PT PIEDRAS BLANCAS.




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS DODGE CITY KS
AFDDDC 251 AM CST THU JAN 30 2003

DAYS 1-2...

THE MAIN CONCERN FOR THE SHORT TERM WILL BE TEMPERATURES.

THE WATER VAPOR LOOP AND 00Z ANALYSIS SHOWS THE LATEST SHORTWAVE TROUGH ON ITS WAY AWAY FROM THE AREA, LEAVING NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT OVER THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS. AT THE SURFACE, HIGH PRESSURE SLID OUT INTO THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND A SURFACE TROUGH HAS DEVELOPED IN THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES.

THE SHORT TERM MODELS SEEMED TO HAVE INITIALIZED WELL AND ARE IN GOOD GENERAL AGREEMENT. ALL KEEP SURFACE WINDS FROM THE SOUTHWEST AND WEST TODAY, CREATING A GOOD SETUP FOR DOWNSLOPE. MODEL 850 TEMPS RANGE FROM 10 C IN THE EAST TO NEARLY 15 C IN THE WEST. NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT MAY BRING IN SOME CIRRUS CLOUDS, BUT THINK THERE SHOULD STILL BE ENOUGH INSOLATION TO MIX OUT WELL, AND ALONG WITH DOWNSLOPING SURFACE WINDS, TEMPS SHOULD GET UP INTO THE LOWER TO MID 60S. TONIGHT, ANOTHER SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVES THROUGH THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND INTO THE UPPER MS VALLEY, BRINGING THE SURFACE TROUGH OUT OF THE WESTERN PLAINS AND PULLING A WEAK FRONT THROUGH THE CWA. ALL OF THE PRECIPITATION WILL BE TO THE NORTH, BUT A FEW SCATTERED CLOUDS COULD COME OUR WAY. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO A MORE NORTHERLY DIRECTION, BUT TEMPERATURES WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL NOT BE BITTERLY COLD, WITH 850 MB TEMPS NOT EVEN GOING BELOW ZERO ACCORDING TO THE MODELS. THUS, WILL KEEP TONIGHTS LOWS IN THE UPPER 20S TO NEAR 30. WINDS WILL SHIFT AROUND AGAIN TO THE SOUTHWEST BY LATE AFTERNOON ON FRIDAY AS ANOTHER LEE SURFACE TROUGH DEVELOPS. DOWNSLOPING WILL AGAIN BE A FACTOR, BUT WITH 850 TEMPS AROUND 5 DEGREES COOLER THAN THURSDAY, WILL KEEP FRIDAYS HIGHS SEVERAL DEGREES COOLER THAN THE DAY BEFORE. SOUTHWEST TO WEST WINDS WILL CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY NIGHT, KEEPING TEMPERATURES FROM DROPPING TOO MUCH.

DAYS 3-7...

WEATHER SYSTEM THAT IS FORECAST TO AFFECT THE CENTRAL PLAINS IN THE SUN-MON TIME FRAME STARTING TO LOOK MORE INTERESTING ON THE 00Z MODEL RUNS. SYSTEM IS NOW OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND WAS SAMPLED WELL YESTERDAY EVENING BY AIRCRAFT/DROPSONDES ASSOCIATED WITH THE WINTER STORM RECON PROGRAM.

GFS INDICATING A SPLIT SYSTEM WITH MORE ENERGY COMING OUT ACROSS NEW MEXICO AND THE TEX PANHANDLE. ECMWF MODEL HAS BEEN THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS SYSTEM AND IS NOW CLOSING IT OFF AT H5 WITH THE VORT MAX TRACKING FROM THE FOUR CORNERS REGION EAST ALONG THE KS/OK BORDER. CANADIAN BRINGS THE SYSTEM OUT MORE OPEN AND FARTHER NORTH BUT IS TRENDING TOWARD A DEEPER AND MORE SOUTHERN TRACK COMPARED TO PREVIOUS RUNS. MODEL RUNS ARE ALSO SLOWING THE SYSTEM DOWN A LITTLE WHICH MAKES SENSE WITH IT DIGGING MORE. APPEARS THE BEST LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE SHUNTED OFF TO THE EAST AS H85 FLOW IS FORECAST TO BE SOUTHWESTERLY AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM. THINK AT LEAST SOME GULF MOISTURE SHOULD GET ENTRAINED INTO THE SYSTEM AS IT MOVES OUT. WITH THIS IN MIND WILL INCREASE POPS INTO THE CHANCE CATEGORY FOR LATE SUNDAY AND CONTINUE INTO SUNDAY NIGHT.

MORE UNCERTAINTY INVOLVED WITH THE SYSTEM FORECAST TO AFFECT THE PLAINS BY MIDWEEK. LATEST RUN OF THE GFS HAS FLOPPED 180 DEG WITH THIS SYSTEM AND NOW HAS THE UPPER LOW DIGGING INTO THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST WHILE THE UPPER RIDGE PUNCHES UP INTO WESTERN CANADA. CURRENT EXTENDED AND 8 TO 10 DAY FORECAST INDICATING THE POSSIBILITY FOR PRECIPITATION ALONG WITH COOLER TEMPS SO WILL LEAVE AS IS.

PRELIMINARY GUIDANCE FOR COORDINATION ONLY. OFFICIAL FORECASTS ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE DODGE CITY ZONE FORECAST.

DDC 63 29 60 33 / 0 0 0 0 GCK 63 29 62 32 / 0 0 0 0 EHA 66 30 64 33 / 0 0 0 0 LBL 64 30 63 33 / 0 0 0 0 HYS 62 28 58 30 / 0 0 0 0 P28 60 31 57 31 / 0 0 0 0

.DDC...NONE.

RITTERLING/GERARD




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SPRINGFIELD MO
AFDSGF 205 AM CST THU JAN 30 2003

SHORT TERM CONCERNS MAINLY DEAL WITH AVIATION/TRAVEL.

LATEST 11-3.9U FOG IMAGERY DEPICTS A VERY SHALLOW STRATUS DECK THAT CONTINUES TO SLOSH ALONG AND SOUTH OF THE MISSOURI OZARKS TERRAIN IN LIGHT FLOW REGIME UNDERNEATH SURFACE RIDGE. SPECTACULAR VIEW OUTSIDE AT THE MOMENT WITH MODERATE ICE CRYSTALS FALLING FROM THE LOW CEILINGS INTO AN ALREADY SATURATED BOUNDARY LAYER. ALTHOUGH THE SCENERY IS PRETTY...THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO SIGNIFICANT RIME ICING PROBLEMS AS VISIBILITIES REMAIN LOW WITH SE WINDS NOW PROVIDING ADDITIONAL OROGRAPHIC ASCENT. TRAVELERS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE LOW VISIBILITIES AND BLACK ICE THAT WILL LIKELY PERSIST THROUGH SUNRISE...ESPECIALLY ALONG THE OZARKS PLATEAU. HAVE OPTED TO ISSUE A FREEZING FOG ADVISORY FOR LOCATIONS ALONG AND SOUTH OF A JOPLIN TO VICHY LINE THRU 9 AM (NPW WILL BE OUT SHORTLY).

FOR TODAY...WINDS WILL GRADUALLY VEER INTO THE SE AND S AS SURFACE RIDGE AXIS SLIDES EAST OF THE AREA. RESIDUAL FOG/LOW STRATUS SHOULD MIX OUT BY MID MORNING...WITH ABUNDANT SUNSHINE EXPECTED EVERYWHERE BY AFTERNOON. MODEST MID LEVEL WARM ADVECTION AHEAD OF BROAD LEE TROUGH SHOULD ALLOW TEMPS THIS AFTERNOON TO REACH THE MID 40S CENTRAL MO TO THE LOWER 50S IN FAR SW MO AND SE KS.

SHORT WAVE ENERGY NOW PUNCHING THROUGH BRITISH COLUMBIA WILL CREST THE WESTERN UPPER RIDGE THIS MORNING AND BEGIN ITS DECENT INTO THE LOWER 48 THIS EVENING. AS INDICATED BY WATER VAPOR/IR IMAGERY...EXPECT EXTENSIVE HIGH CLOUDINESS TO QUICKLY OVERSPREAD THE AREA EARLY TONIGHT BUT NOT MUCH ELSE. SYSTEM WILL ONLY HAVE WHAT MOISTURE IT BRINGS FROM THE PACIFIC AND SOME WEAK ADDITIONAL ASCENT DRIVEN FROM FRONTOGENETIC FORCING ALONG DECENT MID-UPPER LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE. WILL KEEP LOW CHANCE POPS ACROSS FAR NORTHEASTERN SECTIONS FOR SOME LIGHT RAIN LATE TONIGHT/EARLY FRIDAY...BUT WOULD BE SURPRISED TO SEE MORE THAN A HUNDREDTH OR TWO FROM TEASING SHOWERS.

SKIES CLEAR OUT FRIDAY AFTERNOON...AND THEN THE "WINDS OF CHANGE" ARRIVE. SIGNIFICANT STORM SYSTEM THAT WAS WELL SAMPLED BY NOAA/AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT THIS EVENING OVER THE MID PACIFIC (THANKS NCEP) WILL REACH THE WEST COAST FRIDAY EVENING...SHUNTING THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS INTO THE COUNTRY'S MID SECTION. IN ADDITION TO RAPID HEIGHT RISES...STRONGLY WESTERLY UPPER JET WILL INDUCE SIGNIFICANT LEE TROUGHING AND CHINOOK FLOW OFF THE ROCKIES. WARM AIR WILL QUICKLY ADVECT INTO THE REGION SATURDAY AS LOW LEVEL FLOW VEERS AND STRENGTHENS IN RESPONSE TO LEE CYCLOGENESIS. EXPECT TO SEE HIGHS IN THE 60S ACROSS WRN SECTIONS SATURDAY...AND AREAWIDE ON SUNDAY AS THERMAL RIDGE AXIS BUILDS OVER THE AREA. STRONG GRADIENT WINDS WILL HELP TO KEEP MINS WELL ABOVE NORMAL...BUT WILL ALSO LEAD TO HEIGHTENED FIRE DANGER IF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE FAILS TO RETURN FAST ENOUGH. COINCIDENTALLY...FIRE WEATHER FORECASTS RESUME WITH TOMORROW AM'S SHIFT.

RAPID GULF MOISTURE RETURN IS EXPECTED SUNDAY AS UPPER TROUGH DEEPENS AND FURTHER STRENGTHENS LEE CYCLONE...LEADING TO PRONOUNCED CROSS-GULF FLOW. 00Z/30 GFS AND 12Z/29 ECMWF ARE IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT WITH CONTINUING THE TREND TOWARD A SLOWER FRONTAL PROGRESSION ACROSS THE PLAINS AS SEVERAL SURFACE WAVES WILL LIKELY EMANATE FROM A RATHER COMPLEX UPPER SYSTEM. WILL BRING INITIAL CHANCE FOR SHOWERS/STORMS INTO THE AREA SUNDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUE INTO MONDAY AS FRONT SWEEPS ACROSS THE AREA. SYNOPTIC SCALE SETUP LOOKS FAVORABLE FOR A POTENTIAL SEVERE CONVECTIVE EPISODE ACROSS THE MISS VALLEY REGION ON MONDAY IF MOISTURE RETURN IS AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. HAVE ALSO MADE SIGNIFICANT UPWARD ADJUSTMENTS TO TEMPERATURES SUNDAY NIGHT/EARLY MONDAY MORNING AHEAD OF SURFACE FRONT.

.SGF... .MO...FREEZING FOG ADVISORY FOR LOCATIONS ALONG AND SOUTH OF A JOPLIN TO VICHY LINE...EFFECTIVE THRU 9 AM. .KS...NONE.

BOOKBINDER




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SEATTLE WA
AFDSEW 830 PM PST WED JAN 29 2003

.SYNOPSIS...SCATTERED SHOWERS WILL DIMINISH OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON TONIGHT...IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT THAT MOVED THROUGH THE AREA LATE WEDNESDAY. A STRONGER FRONTAL SYSTEM WILL ARRIVE THURSDAY...PRODUCING WINDY CONDITIONS AND LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL LATER THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. COOLER WEATHER IS EXPECTED OVER THE WEEKEND...WITH A WEAKER SYSTEM DUE INTO THE AREA SUNDAY.

.DISCUSSION...A PACIFIC FRONTAL SYSTEM HAS BEEN WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE AREA TODAY...WITH THE OCCLUDED FRONT MAKING LANDFALL LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND CROSSING THROUGH THE PUGET SOUND AREA EARLIER THIS EVENING. PCPN SHOULD GRADUALLY DECREASE TONIGHT AS THE FRONT MOVES ACROSS ERN WA. THOUGH WE DO HAVE LOW LEVEL WESTERLIES BEHIND THE FRONT AND A SMALL SURFACE RIDGE MOVING ONTO THE COAST...AND RADAR IS HINTING AT A WEAK PUGET SOUND CONVERGENCE ZONE.

IN THE BROADER PICTURE THERE IS A FLAT DIRTY UPPER RIDGE ALONG THE PACIFIC NW COAST WITH THE LONGWAVE TROUGH POSITION OUT ALONG 160W. THE NEXT SYSTEM UPSTREAM IS DEVELOPING AS IT MOVES NE OUT OF THE LONGWAVE TROUGH. THIS SYSTEM LOOKS INTERESTING...AS SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS A PLUME OF MOISTURE BLOSSOMING AT THE HEAD OF THE WARM CONVEYOR BELT NEAR 40N/140W AND A FRONT THAT EXTENDS BACK TO THE BASE OF THE TROUGH JUST N OF HAWAII NEAR 30N/160W. AIRCRAFT OBSERVATIONS INDICATE AN UPPER LEVEL JET MAX OF 150 KT IS HELPING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS FEATURE. THIS SYSTEM APPEARS SET TO PRODUCE LOTS OF PCPN WHEN IT MOVES INTO WRN WA THU AFTERNOON...AS MODEL SOLUTIONS HAVE SHOWN FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS. IT STILL LOOKS LIKE THE 850 MB TEMPS WILL RISE TO AROUND +6C IN THE WARM SECTOR THU NIGHT...WITH LOW LEVEL WINDS AROUND 50 KT. THE HEAVY RAIN MIGHT NOT CONTINUE LONG ENOUGH FRI TO CAUSE WIDESPREAD SERIOUS FLOODING...BUT THE MORE FLOOD-PRONE RIVERS OF WRN WA CERTAINLY FACE THE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING AND THE FLOOD WATCH LOOKS GOOD.

THE COLD FRONT SHOULD TRAIL THROUGH THE AREA SLOWLY ON FRI. A SHARP SURFACE TROUGH...CORRESPONDING TO THE BENT BACK OCCLUSION...WILL SWING THROUGH THE AREA FRI NIGHT OR EARLY SAT. I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING SOME WINDS FOR THAT. ALSO THE GFS SHOWS WESTERLY 850 MB FLOW AROUND 30 KT FRI NIGHT THROUGH SAT...WITH THE SNOW LEVEL HOPEFULLY FALLING TO 3000 FT. SO THIS COULD PROVIDE ONE OF THE BETTER MOUNTAIN SNOW EVENTS FOR THE CASCADES IN QUITE A WHILE. NO CHANGES TO THE EXTENDED PERIOD...AS IT LOOKS LIKE A SYSTEM WILL MAKE IT OVER THE RIDGE INTO THE AREA SUN...WITH A DIRTY RIDGE CONTINUING INTO NEXT WEEK. MCDONNAL

UIL 8+++ SEA 8+++ OLM 8+++

.KSEW...GALE WARNING COAST AND STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA. .SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CAMANO ISLAND TO POINT ROBERTS AND PUGET SOUND AND HOOD CANAL. .SNOW ADVISORY CASCADES TONIGHT.

.KATX...VCP21/CSR21...OPERATIONAL.




AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO IL
AFDCHI 600 AM CST THU JAN 30 2003

AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 12 UTC TAFS...

THE SATELLITE LOOPS SHOW THE EASTWARD MOVEMENT OF THE LOW AND MID CLOUDS THIS MORNING. SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS LOW MVFR AND VFR CEILINGS AS FAR WEST AS IOWA. THERE ARE BREAKS SOT THERE MAY BE PERIODS OF BELOW 3000 FT SCT AND 7000 FT BROKEN. THE FORECAST SOUNDING KEEPS AN INVERSION THROUGH THE DAY. THE INVERSION ABOUT 875 MB IS SEEN ON ACARS DATA FROM ORD AT 10 UTC THIS MORNING. WILL FORECAST LOW CLOUDS THROUGH 14 UTC. THEN WILL FORECAST A BROKEN MID LEVEL CEILINGS ALL DAY. THE ETA MODEL BRINGS LIFTING ABOUT 03 UTC. THE WINDS WILL GO SOUTH TODAY AND TONIGHT. FORECAST PRECIPITATION BEGINS AROUND 06 UTC. THERE IS A WARM LAYER ALOFT FORECASTED SO WILL FORECAST FREEZING RAIN MIXED WITH SNOW AT 06 UTC. ISENTROPIC OVERRUNNING IS STRONG BY FRIDAY MORNING. ALSO THE PRESSURE TROUGH MOVING THROUGH 06 UTC TO 12 UTC SUGGESTS WARM AIR SO WILL KEEP THE RAIN SNOW MIX THROUGH THE MORNING. AFTER 12 UTC EXPECT SNOW TO DOMINATE.

WHW

PUBLIC DISCUSSION FOR THE 10 UTC ZONES...

MAIN FORECAST ISSUES THIS MORNING INCLUDE CLOUD TRENDS TODAY...THEN PRECIP TYPE AND AMOUNTS TONIGHT AND FRIDAY AS SHORT WAVE DROPS INTO THE PLAINS FROM CANADA.

SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACES SURFACE HIGH JUST EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING...WITH GOES FOG CHANNEL SHOWING FAIR AMOUNT OF LOW CLOUD COVER ALONG AND WEST OF THE RIDGE AXIS. WARM ADVECTION UNDERWAY ACROSS THE PLAINS WITH VEERING SIGNATURES NOTED IN PROFILER PLOTS. MODEL TIME SECTIONS CONTINUE TO KEEP LOW LEVELS MOIST UNDER INVERSION TODAY...WHICH SHOULD KEEP SOME LOWER CLOUDS AROUND. IN ADDITION...MID LEVEL MOISTURE BEGINS TO INCREASE LATER TODAY AHEAD OF APPROACHING WAVE SO WILL GO PARTLY SUNNY FOR TODAY.

WAA ISENTROPIC LIFT INCREASES TONIGHT RESULTING IN PRECIPITATION SPREADING ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. ETA BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SUGGESTING BRIEF MIX OF SLEET/SNOW AT ONSET BEFORE EVAPORATION COOLS COLUMN AND TRENDS MAINLY TOWARD SNOW. MAY MIX WITH SOME FZRA/RA FRIDAY MORNING ESPECIALLY SOUTH AS SOME DRYING OCCURS ALOFT AND WAA RAISES TEMPS IN LOW LEVELS. LOOKS LIKE BY THE TIME THIS HAPPENS SURFACE TEMPS SHOULD BE RISING TO OR ABOVE FREEZING...SO EXPECT ANY LIGHT FZRA TO BE SHORT LIVED. ISENTROPIC FORECASTS SHOW 2 TO 3 G/KG AVAILBLE BUT WITH SPEED OF WAA LIFT PUSHING TO THE EAST FRIDAY MORNING WILL LIMIT MENTION OF AMOUNTS TO 1-2 INCHES MAINLY NORTHWEST COUNTIES OF FA.

WEAK SURFACE RIDGE MOVES IN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT BEFORE NEXT WAVE MOVES INTO THE PLAINS LATE SATURDAY. ONCE AGAIN WAA DEVELOPS WITH STRONG BAROCLINIC ZONE SETTING UP ACROSS MIDWEST. CHANCE OF SOME RAIN/SNOW WITH DEVELOPING WARM FRONT SATURDAY NIGHT...THOUGH MAIN THREAT LOOKS TO BE TO THE NORTH. FORECAST AREA IN WARM SECTOR SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT WITH NEW GFS AVN/MRF RUNS A LITTLE SLOWER NOW BRINGING FRONT THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. HAVE GONE CHANCE POPS ALL RAIN SUN/SUN NGT...THEN RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW MON AS FRONT MOVES THROUGH AND THICKNESS VALUES DECREASE.

.CHI...NONE.

RATZER