AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO IL
AFDCHI 130 PM CST THU FEB 5 2004
.AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAFS...
SURFACE NEPHANALYSIS AT 13 UTC AND 17 UTC SHOW HOW FAST THE IFR
CEILINGS AND VISIBILITY IS MOVING NORTH. USING THE SURFACE ANALYSIS
IR SATELLITE LOOPS AND WSR88D RADAR WILL FORECAST MVFR CEILING AND
SNOW AROUND 21 UTC AND IFR CEILING AROUND 22 UTC TO ORD AND DPA.
WILL FORECAST AN HOUR LATER FOR RFD. ACARS SOUNDING AT ORD SHOWS
BELOW FREEZING THROUGH THE ENTIRE LAYER. AROUND 09 UTC THE FORECAST
SOUNDING FROM THE ETA MODEL APPROACHES FREEZING AROUND 5200 FT.
WILL KEEP THE TAFS WITH SNOW OVER NIGHT. SOME FREEZING RAIN MIX
WITH SNOW MAY OCCUR SOUTH OF THE TAFS AREA. THE CEILINGS AND
VISIBILITY ARE EXPECTED TO IMPROVE TOWARD MORNING. THE ETA MODEL
MOVES THE MAXIMUM NEGATIVE OMEGA NORTH OF THE TAFS BETWEEN 06 AND 12
UTC. SO EXPECT SNOW TO DIMINISH. WHW
&&
.PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION FOR AFTERNOON GRIDS/ZFP...
MORNING UPPER AIR MAPS SHOW UPPER LOW OVER NE CO. VAPOR PICS ALL
MORNING SHOW JUST SLOW E DRIFT. THIS WILL ALLOW ENTIRE SYSTEM TO
DRIFT TO W ONCE AGAIN. THIS MEANS MAIN SHOT OF PRECIP THIS EVE
BASICALLY OVER 06-08Z AS DRY SLOT MOVES OVERHEAD. DRIFT W ALSO
ALLOWS FOR MORE MIX OR CHANGE OVER FROM SNOW OVER THE SE 1/3 OF
AREA. ALL THIS MEANS NO HEAVY SNOW, JUST ADVISORY CRITERIA.
MIDDAY SATL AND RADAR SHOW BIG PUSH OF MOISTURE WELL TO OUR SE AS
EXPECTED. ALSO GOOD TS ALONG GULF AREAS SO WE DEFINITELY ONLY
GETTING A PIECE OF THE GULF MOISTURE. SYTEM HAS BEEN REAL SLOW TO
GET GOING SO FAR THIS EARLY AFTERNOON, INSPITE OF 30KT 850 FLOW FROM
THE SE AND 30KT LIFT SHOWN ON 295K SURFACE. SO WILL CUT BACK ON SNOW
AMOUNTS TONIGHT. ADVISORIES TO BE KEPT DUE TO THE SN,IP,FZRA,
FZDZ EXPECTED OVER THE AREA.
ALL MODLES SHOW VERY COMPLEX VORT PATTERN TO MOVE THRU NEXT 24
HOURS. MAIN ITEM IS THE STRONG VORT LOBE WHICH PUSHES THE MAIN
MOISTURE E OF AREA 06Z-08Z. 700 + 850 LOWS MOVES TO NW OF AREA
OVERNIGHT SO NO DEFORMATION ZONE SNOW TO CONTEND WITH.
BUFKIT SOUNDINGS VERY INTERESTING. AFTER MAIN PUSH OFF E BY 06Z,
REST OF NIGHT THRU MIDDAY SHOWS A VERY SUPERCOOLED SOUNDING WITH NO
HIGH RH ABOVE -8C. THIS LEADS TO POSSIBLE FREEZING DRIZZLE TIL
HIGHER RH COLUMN COMES IN LATER IN DAY TO AGAIN IN FORM OF STRETCHED
VORT LOBE FROM THE CO UPPER LOW TO HAVE CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW. MAIN
LOBE MOVES OVERHEAD DURING TOMORROW NIGHT SO LO CHANCE STUFF
TOMORROW AND HIGHER CHANCES TOMORROW NIGHT. LOW CHANCE AGAIN
SATURDAY EXPECT NW IN WHERE HIGHER POPS. ANOTHER LIGHT SNOW CHANCE
MONDAY AND TUESDAY.
NEXT SYSTEM TO WATCH IS STRONG VORT LOBE WHICH COMES DOWN DURING
SATURDAY. ANOTHER CHUNK COLD AIR WITH IT. THIS BECOMES IMPORTANT AS
MODELS SHOW POSSIBLE LAKE SNOW FOR NW IN SATURDAY. 850 TEMPS THO
ONLY ABOUT -14 SO NOT SUPER DELTA TO WORK WITH.
BAGGY IDEA THAT NGM HAD TO SFC LOW PATTERN FROM YESTERDAY IS NOW THE
CONSENSUS. SOMETIMES THE OLD MODEL STILL COMES UP WITH THE BEST
SOLUTION. OVERALL SURFACE WINDS SHOW NICE INCREASE FRIDAY NIGHT THRU
MIDDAY SATURDAY AS THE UPPER TROF MOVES THRU. FOR A CHANGE THO THIS
N FLOW DOES NOT HAVE THE DEEP CANADIAN CONNECTION SO WARMING ALREADY
SUNDAY NIGHT.
AF
&&
.LOT...WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
IL...WINTER WX ADVISORY THRU 4 AM FRI.
IN...WINTER WX ADVISORY THRU 4 AM FRI.
LK MI...NONE.
&&
$$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO IL
AFDCHI 1200 PM CST THU FEB 5 2004
.AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAFS...
SURFACE NEPHANALYSIS AT 13 UTC AND 17 UTC SHOW HOW FAST THE IFR
CEILINGS AND VISIBILITY IS MOVING NORTH. USING THE SURFACE ANALYSIS
IR SATELLITE LOOPS AND WSR88D RADAR WILL FORECAST MVFR CEILING AND
SNOW AROUND 21 UTC AND IFR CEILING AROUND 22 UTC TO ORD AND DPA.
WILL FORECAST AN HOUR LATER FOR RFD. ACARS SOUNDING AT ORD SHOWS
BELOW FREEZING THROUGH THE ENTIRE LAYER. AROUND 09 UTC THE FORECAST
SOUNDING FROM THE ETA MODEL APPROACHES FREEZING AROUND 5200 FT.
WILL KEEP THE TAFS WITH SNOW OVER NIGHT. SOME FREEZING RAIN MIX
WITH SNOW MAY OCCUR SOUTH OF THE TAFS AREA. THE CEILINGS AND
VISIBILITY ARE EXPECTED TO IMPROVE TOWARD MORNING. THE ETA MODEL
MOVES THE MAXIMUM NEGATIVE OMEGA NORTH OF THE TAFS BETWEEN 06 AND 12
UTC. SO EXPECT SNOW TO DIMINISH. WHW
&&
.DISCUSSION FOR MORNING GRIDS/ZFP...
NEXT WINTER STORM TO MOVE ACROSS REGION THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.
SFC LOW TO TRACK FURTHER WEST THEN PREVIOUSLY EXPECTED. THIS SHIFTS
HEAVIEST SNOWFALL NORTH AND WEST OF CWA. AREA OF GREATEST CONCERN IS
THE NORTHWEST QUARTER OF CWA WHERE 5 TO 7 INCHES LOOKS GOOD...WITH A
WINTER STORM WARNING THERE. ACROSS THE REST OF THE CWA...SNOW
AMOUNTS TO RANGE FROM 3 TO 5 FROM CHICAGO BACK TO LA SALLE AND 2 TO
4 ACROSS SOUTHEAST THIRD OF CWA...WHERE MIX EXPECTED TO HOLD DOWN
AMOUNTS...THUS WINTER WX ADVISORY REST OF AREA. ENOUGH WARM AIR
ALOFT...LIFTS NORTH THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT THAT PRECIP MAY MIX
THEN CHANGE TO FREEZING DRIZZLE...ESPECIALLY AS DRY SLOT PUSHES
THROUGH. THINK SFC TEMPS ACROSS SOUTHEAST FA WILL REMAIN JUST BELOW
FREEZING BUT WARM AIR CLOSE ENOUGH THE PRECIP MAY END UP BEING JUST
DRIZZLE. MAIN SHOT OF SNOW WILL BE BETWEEN 22Z AND 06Z THIS EVENING
BUT THINK THERE WILL BE ENOUGH WRAP AROUND MOISTURE OVERNIGHT INTO
FRI MORNING THAT ROADS MAY STILL BE SLUSHY AND SLICK TO KEEP WINTER
WX ADVISORY GOING THRU 9 AM FRI. EASTERLY WINDS KICK UP TODAY WITH
SOME GUSTS TO 25-30 MPH SO ONCE SNOW STARTS TO ACCUMULATE...LIKELY
TO BE SOME BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. ANOTHER SHORTWAVE SWINGS THRU
FRI INTO FRI NIGHT AND WILL KEEP A CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW. AS WINDS
TURN NORTH SATURDAY...LAKE EFFECT SNOW A POSSIBILITY SATURDAY
AFTERNOON/EVENING BUT SHOULD QUICKLY END SATURDAY NIGHT. DRY SECOND
HALF OF THE WEEKEND UNTIL CLIPPER BRINGS ANOTHER CHANCE OF SNOW
MONDAY INTO TUESDAY.
&&
.LOT...WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
IL...WINTER STORM WARNING WINNEBAGO...BOONE...MCHENRY...OGLE...
LEE...DEKALB FROM NOON TODAY TO 9 AM FRI. WINTER WX ADVISORY ALL
OTHER IL COUNTIES THRU 9 AM FRI.
IN...WINTER WX ADVISORY THRU 9 AM FRI.
LK MI...NONE.
&&
$$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS COLUMBIA SC
AFDCAE 1018 PM EST THU FEB 5 2004
.DISCUSSION...
CAD ACROSS PIEDMONT AND WEST MIDLANDS HAS INTENSIFIED A BIT THIS
EVENING. TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE UPPER 30S IN THE PIEDMONT. WILL
ADJUST TEMPS DOWN SLIGHTLY. WARM FRONT ALONG COAST WILL MOVE INLAND
LATE TONIGHT...RUC SUGGEST FRONT WILL NOT REACH CAE BY 12Z.
&&
.PREV DISCUSSION...
SATELLITE SHOWING CLOUDINESS ACROSS THE SE. SFC ANAL SHOWING GOOD
CAD ACROSS THE PIEDMONDS/UPSTATE SC WITH TEMP GRAD OF 10 DEG BTWN
GRD AND CAE. ACARS SOUNDINGS AND VAD WINDS SHOWING NE/E WINDS ABOUT
1500 FT THICK. TEMPS OVER NIGHT WILL BE A LITTLE TRICKY. THINK WINDS
WILL COME AROUND AS PER ETA. WILL HAVE NEAR STEADY OR SLOWLY RISING
TEMPERATURES OVER NIGHT. FRI WITH COLD FRONT APPROACHING DEEP LAYER
WINDS BECOME STRONG WITH SFC GUSTS 25 TO 30 MPH. 0-1KM SHEAR
INCREASE IN THE AFTERNOON...BUT STABILITY MAY BE LIMITED WITH
PCPN/CLOUDS...FOR NOW WILL PUT T IN THE FCST. RAINFALL WILL LIKELY
BE HEAVY AT TIMES MAINLY LATE FRIDAY MORNING THRU THE AFTERNOON.
STRONG CAA BEHIND FRONTAL SYSTEM THROUGH SUNDAY.
MON-THU. UPPER TROF ALG THE E COAST SUN MORNING MOVES OFFSHORE BY
MONDAY. FLOW BECOMES SWLY EARLY IN THE WEEK AS TROF DIGGS IN THE SW
U.S. SFC LOW DEVELOPS IN SRN LA TUE AM AND MOVES EWD ENDING UP OFF
THE MID ATLC CST BY WED AFTN. HIGH PRESSURE TO BUILD ACROSS THE AREA
AFTER FROPA. NCEP ENSEMBLES INDICATING A GOOD CHANCE OF OF PCPN
ACROSS THE AREA FOR TUE AND TUE NGT. RAIN SHOULD END WED AFTN. WILL
LOWER MOS TEMPS FOR TUE AS CAD LKLY TO DEVELOP.
&&
.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
COLUMBIA 44 66 44 52 / 50 100 80 10
AUGUSTA 45 67 43 53 / 50 100 80 10
SUMTER 46 67 44 52 / 50 100 90 10
ORANGEBURG 49 67 45 53 / 50 100 80 10
&&
.CAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
SC...NONE.
GA...NONE.
&&
$$
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS COLUMBIA SC
AFDCAE 309 PM EST THU FEB 5 2004
.DISCUSSION
SATELLITE SHOWING CLOUDINESS ACROSS THE SE. SFC ANAL SHOWING GOOD
CAD ACROSS THE PIEDMONDS/UPSTATE SC WITH TEMP GRAD OF 10 DEG BTWN
GRD AND CAE. ACARS SOUNDINGS AND VAD WINDS SHOWING NE/E WINDS ABOUT
1500 FT THICK. TEMPS OVER NIGHT WILL BE A LITTLE TRICKY. THINK WINDS
WILL COME AROUND AS PER ETA. WILL HAVE NEAR STEADY OR SLOWLY RISING
TEMPERATURES OVER NIGHT. FRI WITH COLD FRONT APPROACHING DEEP LAYER
WINDS BECOME STRONG WITH SFC GUSTS 25 TO 30 MPH. 0-1KM SHEAR
INCREASE IN THE AFTERNOON...BUT STABILITY MAY BE LIMITED WITH
PCPN/CLOUDS...FOR NOW WILL PUT T IN THE FCST. RAINFALL WILL LIKELY
BE HEAVY AT TIMES MAINLY LATE FRIDAY MORNING THRU THE AFTERNOON.
STRONG CAA BEHIND FRONTAL SYSTEM THROUGH SUNDAY.
MON-THU. UPPER TROF ALG THE E COAST SUN MORNING MOVES OFFSHORE BY
MONDAY. FLOW BECOMES SWLY EARLY IN THE WEEK AS TROF DIGGS IN THE SW
U.S. SFC LOW DEVELOPS IN SRN LA TUE AM AND MOVES EWD ENDING UP OFF
THE MID ATLC CST BY WED AFTN. HIGH PRESSURE TO BUILD ACROSS THE AREA
AFTER FROPA. NCEP ENSEMBLES INDICATING A GOOD CHANCE OF OF PCPN
ACROSS THE AREA FOR TUE AND TUE NGT. RAIN SHOULD END WED AFTN. WILL
LOWER MOS TEMPS FOR TUE AS CAD LKLY TO DEVELOP.
&&
.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
COLUMBIA 49 66 44 52 / 50 100 80 10
AUGUSTA 49 67 43 53 / 50 100 80 10
SUMTER 49 67 44 52 / 50 100 90 10
ORANGEBURG 50 67 45 53 / 50 100 80 10
&&
.CAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
SC...NONE.
GA...NONE.
&&
$$
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