SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
1100 AM PDT MON MAR 19 2007
.SHORT TERM...
16Z AMDAR DATA (ACARS) SHOWS THE DEPTH OF THE MARINE LAYER AT AROUND
3800 FEET. ADD IN A MODERATE TO STRONG ONSHORE PRESSURE GRADIENT FOR
KLAX-KDAG AT OVER 5 MB AND ONE WOULD NOT EXPECT TOO MUCH CLEARING OF
THE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG THIS AFTERNOON. IN FACT...THE LOW CLOUDS AND
FOG ARE CURRENTLY AT THE DOORSTEP OF PALMDALE HAVING NEGOTIATED
THEIR WAY THROUGH MUCH OF SOLEDAD CANYON. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO
HEAR OF SOME LOCALLY DENSE FOG IN PORTIONS OF SOLEDAD CANYON. ONLY
VALLEY SECTIONS ARE LIKELY TO SEE SOME SUNSHINE THIS AFTERNOON.
GUSTY WINDS WILL BE RATHER STRONG FOR THE ANTELOPE VALLEY
TODAY...PERHAPS A LITTLE STRONGER THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST...THANKS
TO THE STRONG ONSHORE FLOW.
FOR TONIGHT AND TUESDAY...SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA CAN EXPECT CONTINUED
LOW CLOUDS AND FOG IN THE COASTAL AND VALLEY SECTIONS WHILE THE
MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS WILL HAVE MOSTLY CLEAR TO PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES.
WITH LOWERING HEIGHTS AS A TROUGH APPROACHES THE FORECAST
AREA...EXPECT THE DAYTIME TEMPERATURES TO DROP A FEW DEGREES...THE
GREATEST DROP TAKING PLACE IN THE INTERIOR SECTIONS.
TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...A TROUGH IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC WOULD
HAVE TO OVERCOME SEVERAL FACTORS TO BRING MUCH RAIN TO THE AREA. THE
MODELS SEEM TO BE IN SOME DISAGREEMENT WITH THE GFS MORE FORCEFUL IN
BRINGING A DECENT SHOT OF PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTHERN AREAS. THE
WRF MODEL SEEMS TO BE INDICATING A WEAKER SYSTEM PERHAPS DUE TO A
SPLIT FLOW ALONG THE WEST COAST....LIMITED MOISTURE...AND A LACK OF
ANY LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY FLOW IN ADVANCE OF THE SYSTEM. IN ANY
CASE...WILL RAISE THE POPS A BIT FOR SECTIONS NORTH OF POINT
CONCEPTION. THE PRECIPITATION WILL AFFECT THE CENTRAL COAST BY LATE
AFTERNOON OR EARLY EVENING TUE. ON WEDNESDAY...THE SOUTHERN END OF
THE TROUGH EVOLVES INTO A CUTOFF LOW OFF THE SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA
COAST WHICH WILL CONTINUE A SMALL THREAT OF SHOWERS THROUGH
WEDNESDAY.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY...THE UPPER LOW WILL DRIFT SLOWLY TO
THE SOUTHEAST DURING THIS PERIOD PLACING THE FORECAST ON THE
NORTHERN PERIMETER OF THE CLOSED CIRCULATION. THE EASTERN SAN
GABRIEL MOUNTAINS IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY MAY GET SOME WRAP AROUND
MOISTURE...OTHERWISE SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OVER THE GREAT
BASIN IN ADDITION TO EASTERLY FLOW ALOFT WILL PRODUCE SOM GUSTY
OFFSHORE WINDS ON THURSDAY ALONG WITH A DECENT CLEARING TREND.
.LONG TERM...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...
A NICE LITTLE OFFSHORE EVENT IS SHAPING UP THURSDAY AS A CUT OFF LOW
SW OF SAN DIEGO WILL PULL THE UPPER FLOW OFFSHORE TO COMPLEMENT THE
BUILDING OFFSHORE SURFACE PRESSURE TREND. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT
WILL COME IN AT LESS THE WAD STRENGTH BUT THE MDLS HAVE BEEN
TRENDING IT STRONGER WITH EACH RUN.
A WEAK RIDGE WILL BUILD IN OVER THE AREA FRIDAY THROUGH NEXT SUNDAY
AND THE WEATHER WILL BE PLEASANT IF A LITTLE DULL. TEMPS WILL RISE
TO NEAR NORMAL AND MAYBE A DEGREE OR TWO ABOVE NORMS.
&&
.AVIATION...
19/1740Z
MARINE LAYER HAS PUSHED UP TO ABOUT 3800 FT THIS MORNING...WITH A
PERSISTENT EDDY STILL IN PLACE. CLEARING WILL BE SPARSE ONCE
AGAIN...BUT MOST CIGS WILL PUSH ABOVE 030 AND VFR BY 20Z. KVNY AND
KBUR SHOULD SEE CLEARING NEAR 22Z...BUT MIGHT ACTUALLY OCCUR A BIT
BEFORE THAT. KPRB KSBP AND KSMX SHOULD SEE CLEARING BETWEEN 19Z AND
21Z...BUT WILL NOT LAST LONG...WITH MOST OF THOSE AIRFIELDS SEEING
MVFR CIGS RETURNING NEAR 03Z. GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS ONCE AGAIN AT
KPMD AND KWJF THROUGH ABOUT 03Z...PEAKING AROUND 23Z.
KLAX...STRATUS SHOULD REMAIN...BUT SHOULD PUSH INTO VFR ABOVE 030 BY
21Z. CIGS WILL LOWER ONCE AGAIN NEAR 04Z. TYPICAL WESTERLY SEABREEZE
NEAR 10 KT EXPECTED THROUGH 03Z OR SO.
KBUR...CIGS WILL TEETER NEAR 020 THROUGH ABOUT 20Z. AFTER
THAT...SCT-BKN025 CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL. FAIRLY CONFIDENT THERE
WILL BE A BREAK IN THE CIGS BETWEEN 21Z AND 03Z...BUT EXACT TIMING
AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE PERSISTENT OR TEMPO IN NATURE IS
UNCERTAIN. HAZE SHOULD LINGER AS WELL...BUT MAY GO UP TO 7SM DURING
TIMES OF CLEARING. TYPICAL SOUTHERLY SEABREEZE AFTER 21Z.
&&
.LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXCWFLOX).
&&
$$
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SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
315 AM PDT MON MAR 19 2007
.SHORT TERM...
08Z ACARS SOUNDING PLACES THE MARINE LAYER AT 2950 FEET. CURRENT DAG
GRADIENT IS 6.9 ON ITS WAY TO A FORECAST VALUE OF +8.8MB AT 00Z THIS
AFTERNOON WHICH IF TRUE WILL BE THE HIGHEST VALUE EVER RECORDED IN
MARCH DURING THE 21ST CENTURY. THE WEATHER TODAY WILL BE MUCH LIKE
SUNDAY WITH LITTLE OR NO CLEARING OVER THE COASTS SOUTH OF POINT
CONCEPTION AND SOME BUT NOT TOTAL CLEARING OVER THE VALLEYS. THIS
WILL SPARK GOOD WINDS IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY AGAIN. CLOSE TO WIND
ADVISORY CRITERIA BUT OT QUITE.
THE MARINE LAYER WILL REFORM SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION TONIGHT AND
WITH THE APPROACHING TROF SOME DRIZZLE MAY FALL ESP NEAR THE
FOOTHILLS. NO THREAT OF ACTUAL RAIN TONIGHT AS TROF WILL HOLD OFF.
WHERE THERE IS NOT A MARINE LAYER MID AND HIGH CLOUDS WILL INCREASE.
TUESDAY WILL BE CLOUDY AND COOL. RAIN IS ANOTHER QUESTION. THE
SYSTEM IS WHOLLY UNIMPRESSIVE. LIMITED LOW LEVEL MOISTURE...ZERO
SOUTH FLOW AND SCARCE DYNAMICS. AS ALWAYS THE BEST CHANCE OF RAIN
WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL COAST. THE TROF IS SHOWING SOME SIGNS OF
SLOWING SO CARRIED POPS INTO WED MORNING. AT THIS TIME IT LOOKS LIKE
THE BEST CHANCE OF RAIN WILL BE ON THE NORTH SLOPES TUESDAY NIGHT. A
QUARTER INCH OF RAIN IS THE MOST THIS SYSTEM WILL PRODUCE AND MOST
PLACES WILL RECEIVE MUCH LESS. A FAIRLY GOOD NORTH WIND EVENT WILL
SET UP TUESDAY NIGHT THE I-5 CORRIDOR WILL BE AFFECTED BY THESE
WINDS WHICH WILL BE NEAR ADVISORY CRITERIA.
WEDNESDAY WILL BE COOL. CLOUDS WILL BE ON THE DECREASE. TEMPS WILL
STILL BE BELOW NORMAL WITH ONLY 560DM HGTS OVERHEAD.
.LONG TERM...
A NICE LITTLE OFFSHORE EVENT IS SHAPING UP THURSDAY AS A CUT OFF LOW
SW OF SAN DIEGO WILL PULL THE UPPER FLOW OFFSHORE TO COMPLEMENT THE
BUILDING OFFSHORE SURFACE PRESSURE TREND. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT
WILL COME IN AT LESS THE WAD STRENGTH BUT THE MDLS HAVE BEEN
TRENDING IT STRONGER WITH EACH RUN.
A WEAK RIDGE WILL BUILD IN OVER THE AREA FRIDAY THROUGH NEXT SUNDAY
AND THE WEATHER WILL BE PLEASANT IF A LITTLE DULL. TEMPS WILL RISE
TO NEAR NORMAL AND MAYBE A DEGREE OR TWO ABOVE NORMS.
&&
.AVIATION...
19/0930
SIMILAR PATTERN TO YESTERDAY AS STRONG ONSHORE GRADIENTS ARE
FORECAST ONE AGAIN. MARINE LAYER CURRENTLY 3000 FT THIS MORNING.
EXPECT MVFR CIGS AND VFR/MVFR VSBYS MOST AREAS S OF POINT CONCEPTION
TODAY. BURNOFF ACROSS THE VALLEYS SHOULD OCCUR BETWEEN 19-20Z WITH
MOSTLY CLOUDY CONDITIONS ACROSS THE COASTAL SECTIONS ONCE AGAIN
TODAY. EXPECT LOWER CIGS ACROSS THE CENTRAL COAST AND SALINAS
VALLEY AS KSMX AND KSBP SHOULD BE IFR CIGS AND MVFR VSBYS THIS
MORNING...WITH BURNOFF NEAR COAST BY 20Z. KPRB SHOULD SEE LIFR CIGS
EARLY...THEN BECOMING IFR BY 16Z WITH STRATUS BURNOFF BY 18Z WITH
VFR CONDITIONS AFTER THAT. SOME AFTERNOON GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS TO 25
KT ACROSS THE ANTELOPE VALLEY.
KLAX...A REPEAT OF YESTERDAY WITH MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES. MOSTLY MVFR
CIGS AND VFR VSBYS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WINDS SHOULD
BE VARIABLE 6 KT OR LESS THROUGH 17Z...BECOMING SW TO W SEABREEZE BY
18Z WITH STRONGEST SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR 12 KT IN THE AFTERNOON AND
EVENING HOURS.
KBUR...EXPECT MVFR CIGS AND VFR VSBYS UNTIL 20Z. STRATUS BURNOFF
WILL LEAD TO PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES DUE TO THE DEEPNESS OF THE MARINE
LAYER.
&&
.LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXCWFLOX).
&&
$$
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
351 AM CDT MON MAR 19 2007
.DISCUSSION REGARDING MORNING ZONES/GRIDS...
351 AM CDT
MID LVL TROF AMPLIFYING ACROSS UPR MIDWEST/WRN LAKES THIS
MORNING...INDUCING SOME SERIOUS LLVL WAA VIA INTO THE REGION WITH
REGIONAL PROFILERS DEPICTING 60-70 KT SWLY FLOW IN 925-850 HPA
LAYER. ELEVATED LLVL THETA/E AND MOISTURE CONVERGENCE MAXIMA IN AXIS
OF MOIST/UNSTABLE AIR COINCIDENT WITH JET TO TRANSLATE QUICKLY EAST
ACROSS SERN HALF OF CWA EARLY THIS MORNING...BEFORE MOVG EAST OF
FCST AREA LATER THIS MORNING. THEREFORE CURRENT RADAR DEPICTION OF
ELEVATED TRW/RW EXPECTED TO PROGRESS ACROSS AND EVENTUALLY E/SE OF
FCST AREA THRU 12-15Z. WILL THUS MAINTAIN CATEGORICAL POPS ACROSS
SERN PARTS OF FCST AREA THIS MORNING...AND WILL HOLD ONTO CHC POPS
FARTHER NORTHWEST AS SFC COLD FRONT AND MAIN MID LVL S/WV TROF AXIS
MOVG THRU MIDDAY. PASSAGE OF THESE FEATURES SHOULD ALLOW SOME CLRG
THIS AFTN FROM NW TO SE AS SUBSIDENCE AND LLVL DRY ADVECTION
INCREASE IN WAKE OF S/WV. SFC HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS THROUGH NRN
GRTLKS TNGT...WITH DRY N/NE LLVL FLOW INTO FCST AREA PROVIDING
GENERALLY CLR/COOL WX. SOME POTENTIAL FOR SOME LAKE GENERATED
STRATOCU AS COLD POOL PASSES ACROSS LAKE MICH OVRNGT...THOUGH FCST
SOUNDINGS INDICATE SUBSIDENCE INVERSION PRETTY FORMIDABLE AND THINK
PARTLY CLOUDY CONDITIONS AT WORST NEAR THE BIG POND.
SFC HIGH MOVES OFF TO THE EAST ON TUESDAY...WITH LLVL WAA DVLPG
ESPECIALLY ALONG/WEST OF MS RIVER AS WEAK AMPLITUDE S/WV TROF PUSHES
TOWARD UPPER RIDGE FROM THE WEST. TSECTS REMAIN DRY THRU MID/UPR
LEVELS AND SUSPECT LITTLE IN THE WAY OF CLOUD COVER. DESPITE STRONG
SUN...COOL EASTERLY FLOW TO LIMIT TEMPS ESPECIALLY NRN IL WITH WINDS
OFF LK.
NEXT SIG WX APPEARS TO DVLP LATE TUES NGT/WED AS WELL ADVERTISED
LARGE SCALE UPPER PATERN SHIFT BEGINS. MID LVL S/WV CONTINUES TO
PUSH EAST...WITH LLVL WAA RESPONSE STRENGTHENING OVRNGT. WRF/GFS
BOTH DVLP 55 KT 850 JET AHEAD OF APPRCHG WAVE...NOT UNLIKE CURRENT
SCENARIO THIS MORNING. WHILE GENERAL IDEA VERY SIMILAR BETWEEN MODEL
SIMULATIONS...THERE IS BOUT A 6 HOUR TIMING DIFFERENCE WITH POSN OF
WAVE WITH GFS THE FASTER SOLN. DIFFERENCE IS FOR GREATEST PCPN PROB
LATE TUES NGT OR DURG MORNING HOURS ON WED. ATTM WILL BLEND WITH CHC
LATE TUES NGT AND RAISE POPS A BIT WED MORNING. MODELS THEN IN GOOD
AGREEMENT IN MOVG THIS MINOR AMPLITUDE S/WV NORTHEAST OF REGION DURG
AFTN HOURS AS SFC WARM FRONT LIFTS INTO FCST AREA WITH WARM/MOIST
AIR PUMPING NORTH ON BREEZY SOUTH WINDS. ANOTHER S/WV DEPICTED TO
WEST ACROSS PLAINS APPEARS TO SHIFT FOCUS FOR HIGHEST PCPN THREAT
BACK ACROSS NEB/WRN IA ALONG WRMFRNT...THOUGH WILL MAINTAIN CHC POPS
WED AFTN AS CANT RULE OUT POTENTIAL VCNTY WRMFRNT WHICH MOVES TO
IL/WI/SRN LK MICH VCNTY BY 00Z. HAVE RAISED TEMPS WELL INTO 60S FOR
WED AFTN GIVEN GOOD LLVL THERMAL ADVECTION.
MAIN BRANCH OF WESTERLIES AMPLIFIES ACROSS NRN CONUS WED NGT/THURS
BRINING COLD FRONT SAGGING INTO FCST AREA ON THURSDAY. BEST POPS
APPEAR TO BE DURG THE DAY THURS AT THIS DISTANCE...THOUGH INCREASING
POTENTIAL WEST WED NGT AS FRONT/UPPER WAVE APPROACH. GIVEN
DIFFICULTIES OF TIMING SMALLER WAVES HAVE MADE LITTLE CHANGE TO
BROAD BRUSH POPS IN THESE LATER PERIODS.
RATZER
&&
.AVIATION...
1100 PM CDT
THE WARM AIR HAS MOVED IN THE TAF AREA FASTER THAN PREVIOUSLY
ANTICIPATED. THE ACARS SOUNDING AT ORD SHOWS THE AIR BELOW 852 METERS
LEVEL IS ABOVE FREEZING. THE NEW LOCALLY RUN WRF ARW SHOWS THIS
DEPTH OF AIR ABOVE FREEZING TO CLIMB TO 2277 METERS BY 09 UTC. WE
CHANGE OUR PRECIPITATION TO RAIN AFTER 06 UTC. THE RADAR SHOWS SOME
ECHOES FROM 8000 FEET TO 13000 FEET IN NORTHEAST ILLINOIS. THE
SOUNDING AT DVN AT 00 UTC SHOWS THE SATURATED LAYER ABOVE 7905 FT.
THERE IS MORE MOISTURE IN THE ATMOSPHERE. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY
LIGHT FLURRIES AROUND THE AREA THIS EVENING. WHEN THE MAIN AREA
OF PRECIPITATION MOVES IN IT WILL BE MOSTLY RAIN. THE WIND WILL
INCREASE IN SPEED SO WE DO NOT EXPECT ANY IFR VISIBILITY. THE
CEILING WILL DECREASE TO MVFR CONDITIONS WITH THE LOWEST 1200
BROKEN TO OVERCAST MONDAY MORNING. THE PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST TO
END AFTER 1700 UTC WITH THE WIND SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST AND DRIER
AIR MOVING INTO THE TAF AREA. WE USED THE LOCALLY RUN WRF ARW AND
WRF MODEL AT NCEP FOR THE SOUNDING FORECASTS AND WIND FORECASTS.
&&
.LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
.IL...NONE.
.IN...NONE.
.LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVSRY THRU TUES MORN.
&&
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