AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
200 PM PDT WED MAR 21 2007
.SYNOPSIS...
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE OUTER WATERS WILL MOVE SLOWLY SOUTH
TONIGHT. SHOWERS SHOULD DIMINISH OVER NIGHT. WEAK TO MODERATE
OFFSHORE FLOW WILL DEVELOP TONIGHT AND THURSDAY WITH GUSTY EAST
WINDS THROUGH SOME OF THE PASSES. A FEW THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE
THURSDAY AND FRIDAY OVER THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS AS LOW PRESSURE
MOVES SLOWLY EAST ACROSS CENTRAL BAJA CALIFORNIA. FAIR WEATHER IS
EXPECTED FOR THE WEEKEND AS HIGH PRESSURE MOVES OVER CALIFORNIA.
&&
.DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE...
SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTIES...
.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY)...
AIR MASS CURRENTLY SATURATED AND UNSTABLE...BUT WITH CUTOFF LOW NOW
SPUN UP AND MOVING SOUTH OVER OUTER WATERS PER MODEL FORECAST...AS
THE LOW PULLS FURTHER AWAY FROM COAST TONIGHT...DRYING AND
STABILIZING EXPECTED TO TAKE PLACE AS LOW AND MID LEVEL FLOW SHIFTS
TO OFFSHORE AND WARM AIR ADVECTION TAKES PLACE ALOFT. THE MODELS
TAKE THE LOW SOUTH TO ABOUT 28N LATITUDE BEFORE TURNING IT EASTWARD
AND TRACKING IT SLOWLY ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL BAJA CALIFORNIA. BOTH
GFS AND NAM12 NOW IN AGREEMENT ON SPEED OF MOVEMENT WITH LOW NOT
MOVING OVER GULF OF CALIFORNIA AND INTO SONORA MEXICO UNTIL LATE
FRIDAY. AT THIS SPEED SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA WILL BE UNDER MODERATE
EASTERLY FLOW THROUGH FRIDAY...WITH GUSTS AROUND 40 MPH THROUGH
PASSES AND CANYONS. WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS A DRYING AND WARMING
TREND IS EXPECTED...AND DAYTIME TEMPERATURES WERE INCREASED TO O
SHOW 5-10 DEGREES WARMING EACH DAY. EASTERN HALF OF THE AREA WILL
ALSO BE WARMING BUT TEMPERED SOMEWHAT BY CONTINUED CLOUD COVER DUE
TO WRAP AROUND MOISTURE. ALSO UPSLOPE FLOW AND WARMER DAYTIME
TEMPERATURES WILL ADD TO THE LINGERING INSTABILITY THERE AND MAY
RESULT IN THUNDERSTORM SO INCLUDED MENTION OF AFTERNOON
THUNDERSTORMS/DRY LIGHTNING OVER LOWER DESERTS AND EASTERN HALF OF
MOUNTAINS FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.
&&
.LONG TERM (SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY)...
HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE MOVES SOUTHEAST ACROSS CALIFORNIA ON SATURDAY
AND FLATTENS SUNDAY. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN A GENERAL WARMING AND
DRYING TREND INLAND...HOWEVER COASTAL EDDY EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AND
DEEPEN MARINE LAYER SO COAST AND LOWER INLAND VALLEYS WILL BE
COOLING AND MOISTENING. ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY...TROUGH/COLD FRONT
MOVING INLAND TO THE NORTH WILL BRING COOLING ALL AREAS AS WELL AS
INCREASE WEST TO SOUTHWEST WINDS OVER MOUNTAINS AND DESERT AND BRING
ANOTHER CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION. COOL BUT DRY NORTHWEST FLOW
EXPECTED ON WEDNESDAY AS WEAK RIDGE BUILDS IN BEHIND DEPARTING
TROUGH.
&&
.AVIATION...
211930Z...LATE MORNING ACARS SOUNDINGS ARE BEGINNING TO SHOW A HINT
OF A MARINE INVERSION AROUND 8000 FEET. MOIST ONSHORE FLOW WILL KEEP
BROKEN LAYERS OF STRATOCU OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH
HEIGHTS RANGING FROM AROUND 2500 FEET MSL TO 6000 FEET MSL. LOCALLY
LOWER SCATTERED TO BROKEN LAYER AROUND 1500 FEET MSL.
FOR THURSDAY...WRAP AROUND MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH UPPER LOW OFF
THE COAST OF NORTHERN BAJA WILL KEEP LAYERS TO STRATOCU AND ALTOCU
OVER THE AREA THROUGH THE AFTERNOON.
&&
.SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CA...NONE.
PZ...NONE.
&&
$$
PUBLIC/FIRE WEATHER...BALFOUR
AVIATION/MARINE.......HORTON
NWS ON THE WEB AT WEATHER.GOV/SANDIEGO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
900 AM PDT WED MAR 21 2007
.SYNOPSIS...
A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE AND DEEP MARINE LAYER WILL BRING CLOUDS
AND SHOWERS TODAY FROM THE MOUNTAINS WESTWARD. WEAK TO MODERATE
OFFSHORE FLOW WILL DEVELOP TONIGHT AND THURSDAY WITH GUSTY EAST
WINDS THROUGH SOME OF THE PASSES. A FEW SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE AT
TIMES TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY AS LOW PRESSURE OFF THE NORTHERN BAJA
COAST MOVES SLOWLY INLAND ACROSS NORTHERN AND CENTRAL BAJA. FAIR AND
WARMER OVER THE WEEKEND UNDER WEAK HIGH PRESSURE.
&&
.DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE...
SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTIES...
.SHORT TERM (TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY)...
NEAR STATIONARY UPPER TROUGH EXTENDING SOUTHWEST ACROSS REGION WITH
AIR MASS SATURATED TO 10000 FT WILL CONTINUE COOL SHOWERY CONDITIONS
TODAY. NORTHERLY JET AROUND 100 KT DROPPING SOUTHWARD ALONG CENTRAL
CALIFORNIA COAST HAS BEGUN FORMING A SECONDARY LOW IN THE VICINITY
OF POINT CONCEPTION. THIS LOW EXPECTED TO MOVE SOUTH THROUGH TONIGHT
AS MODELS HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING. THIS WILL CAUSE FLOW TO SHIFT TO
OFFSHORE TONIGHT WITH DRIER AIR MOVING IN FROM THE NORTHEAST. THE
MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LOW TURNING TOWARDS THE EAST ON
THURSDAY ALONG 28 N LATITUDE BUT DIFFER ON SPEED OF MOVEMENT. THE
SLOWER NAM12 MODEL IS PREFERRED DUE TO THE TENDENCY OF BAROCLINIC
MODELS TO EJECT CUTOFF LOWS TOO SOON. THUS PROLONGED PERIOD OF
EASTERLY FLOW ACROSS SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA THURSDAY INTO
FRIDAY...WITH THREAT OF WRAP AROUND MOISTURE MOVING ACROSS LOWER
DESERTS AND UP AGAINST EAST SLOPES OF MOUNTAINS. THE MAIN
THUNDERSTORM THREAT WILL BE TO THE EAST...HOWEVER CLOSE ENOUGH TO
THAT A FEW DRY LIGHTNING STRIKES COULD OCCUR IN THE FORECAST
AREA...SO WILL LIKELY REINTRODUCE IN THE AFTERNOON FORECAST PACKAGE.
&&
.LONG TERM (SATURDAY THROUGH TUESDAY) FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO CALIFORNIA FROM THE PACIFIC FOR THE
WEEKEND...WEAKENING EARLY NEXT WEEK. DGEX SHOWS A RETURN OF THE
MARINE LAYER FOR SUNDAY AND MONDAY. EXTENDED MODELS ARE IN BETTER
AGREEMENT FOR TUESDAY WITH A FAST MOVING STORM SYSTEM THAT WILL MOVE
INLAND ACROSS CALIFORNIA. THIS WILL BRING COOLING AND STRONG GUSTY
WINDS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS FOR SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA ALONG
WITH A CHANCE OF SHOWERS.
&&
.AVIATION...
211545Z...ACARS SOUNDINGS INDICATE THE MARINE LAYER WAS DISRUPTED
THIS MORNING AS DEEP LOW LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINS OVER THE AREA BEHIND
A WEAK COLD FRONT THAT MOVED THROUGH EARLY THIS MORNING. MOIST
ONSHORE FLOW WILL KEEP LAYERS TO CU AND STRATOCU OVER THE AREA
THROUGH THE THIS EVENING WITH MULTIPLE LAYERS BROKEN LAYERS BETWEEN
2500 AND 5000 FEET WITH LOCALLY LOWER LAYERS AROUND 1200 FEET. TOPS
ABOVE 8000 FEET. VISIBILITY SHOULD REMAIN VFR EXCEPT FOR MVFR TO
LOCAL IFR VISIBILITIES IN VICINITY OF SCATTERED SHOWERS.
BROKEN TO OVERCAST STRATOCU SHOULD CONTINUE TONIGHT FROM THE
MOUNTAINS WESTWARD WITH BASES AROUND 2500 MSL AND TOPS TO 6000 FEET
MSL.
GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS WILL PRODUCE MOUNTAIN
WAVE/ROTOR ACTIVITY IN THE VICINITY OF KPSP THROUGH THE AFTERNOON.
&&
.SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
CA...NONE.
PZ...NONE.
&&
$$
PUBLIC/FIRE WEATHER...BALFOUR
AVIATION/MARINE.......HORTON
NWS ON THE WEB AT WEATHER.GOV/SANDIEGO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
648 AM CDT WED MAR 21 2007
.DISCUSSION FOR MORNING ZONES/GRIDS...
330 AM CDT
FORECAST CONCERN WILL CONTINUE TO BE ON SHOWERS/TSTORMS THROUGH THE
WEEKEND...AND THE IMPACT ON AREA RIVERS/STREAMS WHICH ARE CURRENTLY
RUNNING HIGH.
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY THIS MORNING INDICATING SEVERAL SMALL SCALE
SHORT WAVES EMBEDDED IN THE W-SWRLY UPPER LEVEL FLOW. CONVECTIVELY
ENHANCED VORT MAX IS CURRENTLY TRACKING ACROSS EASTERN IOWA. MID
LEVEL WINDS FROM THE SLATER IOWA PROFILER INDICATED A GOOD VEERING
SIGNATURE WITH PASSAGE OF THIS VORT MAX OVER PAST FEW HOURS.
STRONGEST ISENTROPIC ASCENT ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS PER THE WRF
295K ISENTROPIC SURFACE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH 12Z IN ADVANCE OF THIS
VORT MAX ALLOWING FOR CONTINUED WIDESPREAD SHOWERS THROUGH THE EARLY
MORNING HOURS. ELEVATED INSTABILITY IS RATHER LIMITED EARLY THIS
MORNING...BECOMING MORE IMPRESSIVE AFTER 12Z ONCE ELEVATED WARM
FRONTAL BOUNDARY LIFTS INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. WILL KEEP MENTION OF
ISOLD THUNDER THIS MORNING GIVEN THIS. AFTER 12Z...STRONGEST
ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE WILL SHIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS EASTERN
WISCONSIN/MICHIGAN. ANOTHER UPSTREAM VORT MAX ACROSS EASTERN
NEBRASKA IS EXPECTED TO TRACK INTO SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN THIS
AFTERNOON. ANOTHER ZONE OF LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT/LOW LEVEL
THETA-E IN ADVANCE OF THIS VORT MAX IS ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO
SHOWER/THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT ACROSS SOUTHERN IOWA/NORTHEAST
MISSOURI AT THIS TIME. AS LOW LEVEL WINDS VEER WITH THE PASSAGE OF
ELEVATED WARM FRONT THIS MORNING...THIS SHOULD RESULT IN
RE-STRENGTHENING LOW LEVEL ISENTROPIC LIFT TOWARD MIDDAY. WITH
AFOREMENTIONED NEBRASKA VORT TRACKING INTO SOUTHWEST
WISCONSIN...BEST CHANCE OF ADDITIONAL SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS MAY BE
ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS. WILL MAINTAIN CHANCE POPS INTO THE
AFTERNOON GIVEN THE ABOVE FACTORS. DESPITE CLOUDS/PRECIP
TODAY...HIGH TEMPS FROM LOW 60S EXTREME NORTH TO UPPER 60S SOUTH
STILL SEEM REASONABLE GIVEN EXPECTATION THAT SURFACE WARM FRONTAL
BOUNDARY WILL TRACK INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN THIS AFTERNOON WITH SFC
DEW PTS RISING INTO THE 50S.
FOR TONIGHT...BREEZY S-SW WINDS IN WARM SECTOR WILL ALLOW FOR A
MINIMAL TEMP DROP OFF AND MAIN CONCERN WILL BE ON RENEWED CHANCES
FOR SHOWERS/STORMS AS RATHER VIGOROUS NORTHERN STREAM SHORT WAVE
TROUGH MOVES ALONG THE US/CANADIAN BORDER DRIVING A COLD FRONT
SOUTHEASTWARD. TREND OVER PAST FEW RUNS OF WRF/GFS HAVE BEEN TO A
FASTER FRONTAL TIMING ACROSS NORTHWEST ILLINOIS LATE WEDNESDAY
NIGHT. GIVEN PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THIS NORTHERN STREAM
TROUGH...HAVE GENERALLY BOUGHT INTO THIS IDEA. THUS...HAVE MOVED UP
TIMING OF SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS FOR TONIGHT...AND NOW QUICKER TO
LOWER POPS FROM NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST DURING THE DAY THURSDAY.
ELEVATED INSTABILITY IS MORE IMPRESSIVE TONIGHT INTO EARLY THURSDAY
WITH WRF BUKFIT SOUNDINGS INDICATING 500-1000 J/KG OF ELEVATED
INSTABILITY OVERNIGHT WITH A 60 KT SWRLY LLJ. DOES NOT SEEM LIKE AN
OPTIMAL SEVERE SETUP GIVEN FRONTAL TIMING BUT CANNOT RULE OUT GUSTY
WINDS/SMALL HAIL LATE TONIGHT NORTH OF I-88. WITH THE FRONT PUSHING
ACROSS THE AREA THURSDAY MORNING...BETTER CHANCE OF AFTERNOON
THUNDER/LIMITED SEVERE POTENTIAL LOOKS TO SET UP SOUTH OF THE AREA.
OF GREATER SIGNIFICANCE WILL BE RAINFALL TOTALS. BETWEEN RAINFALL
TONIGHT AND ON THURSDAY...TOTAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE. WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD OFF ON HYDRO HEADLINES GIVEN
RAINFALL RATES NOT EXCEEDINGLY GREAT THIS MORNING...BUT SOME MINOR
FLOODING PROBLEMS WILL LIKELY PERSIST ON PORTIONS OF THE KANKAKEE
RIVER IN NORTHWEST INDIANA. TEMPS WERE CHANGED VERY LITTLE THIS
WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...ALTHOUGH DID LOWER MAX TEMPS BELOW
GUIDANCE FRIDAY JUST A SHADE. NORTHEAST FLOW UNDER INFLUENCE OF
SURFACE HIGH AND LINGERING FRONTAL INVERSION SHOULD ALLOW FOR TEMPS
TO ONLY STRUGGLE INTO THE LOW TO MID 50S ACROSS FAR NORTHERN
ILLINOIS WITH COOLER LAKESIDE TEMPS.
PRECIP FORECAST FROM THURSDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY GETS A BIT TRICKER WITH
SFC HIGH SETTLING OVER THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES AND LOW LEVEL
BOUNDARY STALLING OUT SOUTH OF THE AREA. GIVEN UNCERTAINTY...HAD TO
MAINTAIN CHANCE POPS ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH THROUGH THE EARLY PART OF
THE WEEKEND. CHANCE POPS FOR TSRA RETURN CWA-WIDE SUNDAY-TUESDAY AS
CUT OFF UPPER LOW ACROSS SOUTHWEST CONUS SLOWLY BEGINS TO LIFT INTO
THE PLAINS.
MARSILI
&&
.AVIATION DISCUSSION REGARDING 06Z TAFS...
648 AM CDT
FORECAST FOCUS REMAINS TIMING PRECIP/CONVECTIVE THREATS TO
TERMINALS...AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED IFR CIG/VIS ISSUES THIS MORNING.
SERIES OF MINOR AMPLITUDE MID LVL S/WV TROFS RIPPLING NE FROM
CENTRAL/SRN PLAINS TODAY RESULTING IN RW/EMBEDDED TRW AFFECTING MS
VLY AND WRN GRTLKS REGION IN BROAD SWLY MOIST/WARM ADVECTION. VAPOR
IMAGERY INDICATES ONE WEAK VORT LIFTING NERN IL/SERN WI ATTM...WITH
ANOTHER WELL DEFINED SMALL S/WV MOVG INTO WRN IA. PROFILERS/ACARS
SOUNDINGS DEPICT 50 KT LLVL JET IMPINGING UPON ELEVATED WARM FRONTAL
ZONE...PRODUCING MOIST CONVERGENCE/THETA-E ADVECTION INTO FCST AREA.
ACARS SOUNDINGS FROM KDSM AND KRFD INDICATE LAPSE RATES NOT VERY
STEEP...THOUGH TS OCCURRING ALONG ELEVATED MOIST CONVERGENT AXIS
FROM NERN IA TO ECNTRL MO/WCNTRL IL. S/WV TO LIFT THRU FCST AREA
DURG THE MORNING/EARLY AFTN HOURS...THOUGH EXPECT SOME DIURNAL
DECREASE TO LLVL JET STRENGTH AND WEAKENING OF RW/TRW BY MID/LATE
MORNING. KRFD HAS PERHAPS BETTER CHANCE OF TRW...GIVEN BETTER MID
LEVEL FORCING AS WRN IA S/WV LIFTS INTO WI. IFR CIGS WHICH HAVE
DVLPD IN RAIN MOISTENED COOLER LOW LEVELS SHOULD IMPROVE TO MVFR
LATER THIS MORNING AS RW DECREASE AND TEMPS RISE. WITH S/WV LIFTING
NORTHEAST OF AREA XPCT TO HAVE LULL IN PCPN THREAT FROM AFTN THRU
EVENING HOURS...THEN THREAT INCREASES OVRNGT AS MORE AMPLIFIED UPPER
TROF MOVES ACROSS NRN PLAINS/UPR LAKES. FCST SOUNDINGS INDICATE
GREATER INSTABILITY AHEAD OF FRONT TONIGHT AS UPPER FORCING
INCREASES...600-700 J/KG OF MLCAPE FOR A PARCEL JUST ABOVE BOUNDARY
LAYER. THUS EXPCTG LINE OF TS TO MOVE RAPIDLY EAST ACROSS FCST AREA
AHEAD OF COLD FRONT AFTER MIDNIGHT TNGT.
SFC WINDS WHICH HAVE BEEN PRETTY STEADY IN 130-150 DEG RANGE SHOULD
GRADUALLY VEER SOUTH WITH TIME AS SFC WRMFRNT LIFTS NORTH ACROSS
AREA THRU AFTN. FCST SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO INDICATE POTENTIAL FOR
GUSTINESS INTO 25+ KT RANGE FROM LATE AFTN INTO THE OVRNGT
HOURS...AS WINDS BECOME MORE SSW WITH TIME. COLD FROPA APPEARS TO
AFFECT KRFD AROUND 10-11Z...THEN INTO CHI AREA ABOUT 12/13Z.
RATZER
&&
.LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
.IL...NONE.
.IN...NONE.
.LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ILLINOIS NEARSHORE THROUGH 18Z THURS.
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY INDIANA NEARSHORE 18Z WED-18Z THURS.
&&
$$
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